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kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby kaywala » Tue 03.28.2006 1:16 am

I understand the basic concept, that the re series means, this one, that one, and that one over there where as kono, sono and ano specifiy one. Right now, I'm relating two sentances with the partical mo. But...then I got stuck on this one.

This is my bicycle. That is my bicycle, too.

I don't know where to start. Since I can name the object I wanted to put

この わたし の じてんしゃ は です。 その わたし の じんてんしゃ も です。 

But I wasn't sure if this was correct. I was also wondering on this sentance here:

This is a vegetable. That also is a vegetable.
(It's actually a cartoon man holding a plate of tomatoes and also pointing to a plate of carrots)

Would it be:

この やさい は です。 その やさい も です。

And this sentance also:

Takeshi's major is history. My major is history, too.

たけしさん の せんもん は れきし です。 わたし の せんもん も れきし です。


And

Mrs. Tanaka is a student at Nihon university. Mr. Yoshida is a student at Nihon University, too.

たなかさん は にほん だいがく の がくせい です。 よしださん も にほん だいがく の
がくせい です。

Well...This was at first meant to be a post for help but I kind of figured it out as I typed it out. Um...so would any one be so kind as to check my work?
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby Mukade » Tue 03.28.2006 1:22 am

fliprenegade wrote:
This is my bicycle. That is my bicycle, too.

I don't know where to start. Since I can name the object I wanted to put

この わたし の じてんしゃ は です。 その わたし の じんてんしゃ も です。 
Kono watashi no jitensha wa desu. Sono watashi no jintensha mo desu.


これはわたしのじてんしゃです。そのじてんじゃもわたしのです。

fliprenegade wrote:
I was also wondering on this sentance here:

This is a vegetable. That also is a vegetable.
(It's actually a cartoon man holding a plate of tomatoes and also pointing to a plate of carrots)

Would it be:

この やさい は です。 その やさい も です。
kono yasai wa desu. Sono yasai mo desu.


これはやさいです。それもやさいです。

fliprenegade wrote:
And this sentance also:

Takeshi's major is history. My major is history, too.

たけしさん の せんもん は れきし です。 わたし の せんもん も れきし です。
Takeshisan no senmon wa rekishi desu. Watashi no senmon mo rekishi desu.


ピンポン!

fliprenegade wrote:
And

Mrs. Tanaka is a student at Nihon university. Mr. Yoshida is a student at Nihon University, too.

たなかさん は にほん だいがく の がくせい です。 よしださん も にほん だいがく の
Tanakasan wa nihon daigaku no gakusei desu. Yoshida san mo nihon daigaku no

がくせい です。
gakusei desu.


ピンポン!
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby arlam110 » Tue 03.28.2006 2:05 am

Mukade wrote:

これはわたしのじてんしゃです。そのじてんじゃもわたしのです。


That one sounded strange since the 2 sentense structures don't match. Try this:

これは わたしの じてんしゃです。 それも わたしの じてんしゃです。
This is my bicycle. That is also my bicycle.

or

この じてんしゃは わたしのです。 その じてんしゃも わたしのです。
This bicycle is mine. That bicycle is also mine.
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby Justin » Tue 03.28.2006 2:34 am

What Mukade has there is perfectly fine, trust him, he know's his stuff well. Also, just because you use kore in the first sentence, doesn't mean you can't use sono in the next, just a different way to go about things, nothing wrong with it at all.
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby Zap » Wed 04.05.2006 9:05 am

Jitsu wa Mukade wa zenzen wakara nai kedo...

In case that didn't make sense: Actually, Mukade's post made no sense to me...
Watashi wa nihongo ni yowai... :D
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby AJBryant » Wed 04.05.2006 10:54 am

Jitsu wa Mukade wa zenzen wakara nai kedo...

In case that didn't make sense: Actually, Mukade's post made no sense to me...


Actually, the Japanese above says: "The truth is, Mukade doesn't understand at all."

The English text in Japanese would be, "Jitsu wa, Mukade NO POSUTO GA zenzen wakaranai kedo."

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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby unij jenny » Wed 04.05.2006 2:01 pm

hi im a bit confused with these words somtimes i get them mixed up o well:@
日本語は涼しい
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby AJBryant » Wed 04.05.2006 3:03 pm

日本語は涼しい


Just thought I'd let you know... "涼しい" does mean "cool" but like weather or a breeze. It has nothing to do with the "other" cool.

(BTW, where is walse? ;) )

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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby Zap » Thu 04.06.2006 6:50 am

Gomen Mukade... machigai mashita...
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Watashi wa nihongo ni yowai... :D
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby Harisenbon » Thu 04.06.2006 10:07 pm

日本語は涼しい


That is the best sig I've ever seen.

It reminds me of that Malcolm in the Middle episode where his classmates in spanish class are talking about whether a girl is "fuego" or "mui fuego" :D
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby AJBryant » Fri 04.07.2006 11:27 am

It reminds me of that Malcolm in the Middle episode where his classmates in spanish class are talking about whether a girl is "fuego" or "mui fuego"


:D :D :D :D

I love it when they throw in jokes that most of the audience just can't grok.

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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby Kates » Fri 04.07.2006 2:13 pm

I did a project in Spanish in high school--writing and acting out "Goldilocks" for a final project. When the bears found her sleeping in Baby Bear's bed, we had Goldie jump up and cry, "Soy pan tostada!" XD My friend and I still make jokes about that~

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fliprenegade: Points to remember, は never appears next to です. Actually, someone is probably going to say, "now wait a minute, HERE's an exception!" And I'm sure that's true, but for a beginner, just think of it as a grammatical no-no.

この、その、あの、どの are all adjectives, which means they must come before a noun. However, they usually do not precede personal pronouns (like わたし、かれ、かのじょ, etc). Actually, you might この わたし (this me) in anime or something, but it's not something you want to get in the practice of saying. You'll probably get looked at funny. (: その わたし (that me) would probably get you even funnier looks, unless you have a clone or something.

この やさい は です。 その やさい も です。

This sentence sounds like you are missing something between は and です. It translates to: "This vegetable is _____." You could say:
この やさい は じゃがいも です。 (This vegetable is a potato.)
その やさい も じゃがいも です。 (That vegetable is also a potato.)

Mukade and alram both gave you grammatically correct ways to say what you originally intended.
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RE: kore, sore, are, kono, sono and ano

Postby skrhgh3b » Fri 04.07.2006 2:42 pm

the first half of kakuko shoji's book japanese core words and phrases deals with the uses of the ko-so-a-do words that you won't likely find in textbooks. it makes a really good supplement. check it out.
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