How do I say....

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How do I say....

Post by darkmis29 » Thu 04.07.2005 1:45 pm

How do I say:

I love Japan! and I am Canadian!

in japanese? (can you please put it in japanese words and characters).Thanks.
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Post by Riley » Thu 04.07.2005 3:31 pm

well i'm not that good at japanese yet but i hope i get this right...if not someone will correct me i'm sure :)
1. i am canadian- わたしは カナダじん です (watashi wa kanadajin desu)
2. i love japan- 日本 を すき です (nihon wo suki desu)

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RE: How do I say....

Post by strange368 » Thu 04.07.2005 4:21 pm

I believe the second phrase should be
日本が好きです。 (nihon ga suki desu)

There should be a が (ga) instead of a を (wo)

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Post by Riley » Thu 04.07.2005 4:59 pm

yeah it does make more sense :D thanks

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Post by darkmis29 » Thu 04.07.2005 6:22 pm

thank u sooo much! :)
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Post by Matsumoto_hideto » Thu 04.07.2005 6:24 pm

Riley wrote:
well i'm not that good at japanese yet but i hope i get this right...if not someone will correct me i'm sure :)
1. i am canadian- わたしは カナダじん です (watashi wa kanadajin desu)
2. i love japan- 日本 を すき です (nihon wo suki desu)
i guess ur write


but i wouldnt use suki as a substitue for love

although using ai is out of the question

i would use daisuki because its closer to love but less than like
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Post by nailsoft » Thu 04.07.2005 6:46 pm

Why would it be ga and not wo? Isn't Japan the direct object?
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Post by Mukade » Thu 04.07.2005 8:49 pm

nailsoft wrote:
Why would it be ga and not wo? Isn't Japan the direct object?
Not really, since 好き isn't a verb - it's an adjective.

This is often difficult for English speakers to understand, because in English, "to like" is a verb. In Japanese, however, it is an adjective, and so a more direct translation of a sentence like 私は日本が好きです would be "I (have the quality of) admired Japan."

Since this sounds so awkward in English, we usually just translate the adjective 好き as the verb "to like," but don't let that trick you into thinking that it's a verb in Japanese, as well.

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Post by Matsumoto_hideto » Thu 04.07.2005 11:23 pm

Mukade wrote:
nailsoft wrote:
Why would it be ga and not wo? Isn't Japan the direct object?
Not really, since 好き isn't a verb - it's an adjective.

This is often difficult for English speakers to understand, because in English, "to like" is a verb. In Japanese, however, it is an adjective, and so a more direct translation of a sentence like 私は日本が好きです would be "I (have the quality of) admired Japan."

Since this sounds so awkward in English, we usually just translate the adjective 好き as the verb "to like," but don't let that trick you into thinking that it's a verb in Japanese, as well.

A correction 好き is neither a verb nor an adjictive

its in a special class of words known as the "Copula" which is the special useage of inflicted verbs

so grammatically Suki is a copula Noun.


not trying to put u down but im taking hardcore classes and they break things down into categories like that.


but you are correct it is a verb in english but when it translates over its usage switches over to that of a noun.
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Post by Mukade » Thu 04.07.2005 11:56 pm

Matsumoto_hideto wrote:
A correction 好き is neither a verb nor an adjictive its in a special class of words known as the "Copula" which is the special useage of inflicted verbs so grammatically Suki is a copula Noun.
I stand corrected.

As a copula noun, though, it operates within a sentence pretty much exactly like a な-adjective. So, it would have が as its identifying particle, it would be attached to other nouns with な, would be listed in adjective/copula sequences with で, etc, etc.

This is probably the reason I had it labeled in my mind as an adjective.

Thanks for pointing out the distinction.

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Post by Riley » Fri 04.08.2005 7:38 am

*confused* now i'm confused...would it be right to use "wo" and to say:
watashi wa nihon wo suki desu
?

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Post by Schattenjedi » Fri 04.08.2005 8:40 am

Riley wrote:
*confused* now i'm confused...would it be right to use "wo" and to say:
watashi wa nihon wo suki desu
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No, が is the particle used in front of 好き.

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Post by Spaztick » Fri 04.08.2005 11:48 am

"ga" I think of as a sort of indirect particle, so I can think of it as "I like Japan."

You can't use gasuki with a direct particle, because that means that you "like Japan" in the same sense that you "play Japan" or "talk Japan" or "jump Japan."

My thoughts on it. I think my thinking is a lot easier than when people write out grammar papers on Japanese, even if it's not totally correct.
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Post by Schattenjedi » Fri 04.08.2005 12:45 pm

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