Learn Japanese with JapanesePod101.com

View topic - Yakuzas

Yakuzas

Post questions and answers about living or visiting Japan or the culture

Yakuzas

Postby kangaroo_joey » Wed 05.31.2006 9:04 am

Does any one know anyting about them? I do feel a little ignorant, but i noticed you guys talking about how scary they are. I'll be going to Japan for a while and thought it would be good to know a little about such stuff. What do they do in reality?

Do any of you have any accounts of how they behave and stuff like that? I might accidentally offend one so I thought it would be good to know how to react. Should i run? My friend said that we are staying somewhere close to one of their 'territories' and I'm quite careless so... :(
kangaroo_joey
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed 05.31.2006 8:46 am

RE: Yakuzas

Postby taku » Wed 05.31.2006 9:11 am

this is not a nice topic in Japan...you must not believe on movies about them. they are dangerous and japanese people dont like talking about this.
User avatar
taku
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu 07.14.2005 2:16 pm

RE: Yakuzas

Postby keatonatron » Wed 05.31.2006 9:17 am

Although, in all earnestness, recently the yakuza have been getting involved in more and more legit business. And they won't simply hurt you because you offended them. You'd have to barge in to one of their hideouts and start killing people to really get a reaction ;)

However, that doesn't mean you should go wandering around dark allies at night.
User avatar
keatonatron
 
Posts: 4838
Joined: Sat 02.04.2006 3:31 am
Location: Tokyo (Via Seattle)
Native language: English
Gender: Male

RE: Yakuzas

Postby coco » Wed 05.31.2006 9:34 am

Wikipedia introduces some books about Yakuza. Search "Yakuza".
keatonatron-san's message could be a practical advice.
coco
 
Posts: 3061
Joined: Mon 05.30.2005 12:43 am
Location: 東京都
Native language: 日本語(Japanese)

RE: Yakuzas

Postby karelhof » Wed 05.31.2006 10:21 am

why do people in japan don't like to talk about it? are they really so powerful then?
and what are the parts of movies I musntn't belive?:|
Last edited by karelhof on Wed 05.31.2006 10:22 am, edited 1 time in total.
karelhof
 
Posts: 58
Joined: Thu 05.25.2006 1:53 pm

RE: Yakuzas

Postby taku » Wed 05.31.2006 10:37 am

karelhof wrote:
why do people in japan don't like to talk about it? are they really so powerful then?
and what are the parts of movies I musntn't belive?:|

well, the things like: " if they do something wrong they cut their fingers" that was before, now the police takes away anyone who has not all the fingers..:D
we dont like talking about them because they are dangerous
Last edited by taku on Wed 05.31.2006 10:38 am, edited 1 time in total.
User avatar
taku
 
Posts: 30
Joined: Thu 07.14.2005 2:16 pm

RE: Yakuzas

Postby Mukade » Wed 05.31.2006 9:11 pm

Gangsters everywhere are dangerous. The thing about Yakuza, however, is that they tend to leave ordinary folks alone. As long as you aren't doing anything illegal, they won't mess with you.

So my advice would be to not sell drugs in established territory...


Actually, though, what I find scarier than the Yakuza are the bosozoku and the yankees. They are social dropouts with nothing to lose, and wouldn't think twice about vandalizing property or getting into fistfights.

And I can tell you from experience that if you get in a fight with one of them, no one will intervene to help you.

So if someone like that tries to mess with you - just walk (or run, depending on the situation) away.
User avatar
Mukade
 
Posts: 775
Joined: Fri 02.18.2005 3:30 am
Location: Osaka
Native language: English
Gender: Male

RE: Yakuzas

Postby hamsterfreak4evr » Wed 05.31.2006 10:07 pm

are yakuzas gansters then?? im still confused on exactly WHAT yakuzas are..lolB):p
User avatar
hamsterfreak4evr
 
Posts: 387
Joined: Sun 07.17.2005 8:21 pm
Location: America
Native language: english
Gender: Female

RE: Yakuzas

Postby keatonatron » Wed 05.31.2006 11:58 pm

User avatar
keatonatron
 
Posts: 4838
Joined: Sat 02.04.2006 3:31 am
Location: Tokyo (Via Seattle)
Native language: English
Gender: Male

RE: Yakuzas

Postby kangaroo_joey » Thu 06.01.2006 2:04 am

Actually, though, what I find scarier than the Yakuza are the bosozoku and the yankees. They are social dropouts with nothing to lose, and wouldn't think twice about vandalizing property or getting into fistfights.
XD i don't sell drugs and I don't usually barge in to chop people so I think i'll be fine. Then again bullets and knifes don't usually have eyes and so I should try to keep outta the way. How do you guys know if something bad is going to break out? Do they announce it so that the civilian can take cover first?

Actually, though, what I find scarier than the Yakuza are the bosozoku and the yankees. They are social dropouts with nothing to lose, and wouldn't think twice about vandalizing property or getting into fistfights.


Yankees≠Baseball? What do they look like?
kangaroo_joey
 
Posts: 2
Joined: Wed 05.31.2006 8:46 am

RE: Yakuzas

Postby keatonatron » Thu 06.01.2006 2:53 am

kangaroo_joey wrote:
Then again bullets and knifes don't usually have eyes and so I should try to keep outta the way. How do you guys know if something bad is going to break out? Do they announce it so that the civilian can take cover first?


If you somehow managed to accidentally find a Yaukuza hideout, give the correct password to the guard at the door, not get kicked out by all the guys hanging out inside, and finally stumble into the back room where the Yakuza bosses are meeting right as a fight breaks out-- I'd say your luck is so bad there's no way to avoid getting killed in the crossfire.

Seriously, what Taku meant about not believing the movies is that fights don't just break out in the middle of the street with no warning. In fact, fights don't break out, period. The whole key to the Yakuza system (just like the American Mafia) is to avoid detection. You make people "disappear", you don't mow them down with a bunch of witnesses around.

Needless the say, the only people who need "disappearing" are Japanese people who have been involved in Yakuza activities for quite some time. You will never be targeted, and you will never see any Yakuza violence. That is, unless you refuse to pay one of their prostitutes.

Yankees≠Baseball? What do they look like?


Bleached blonde hair, heavy makeup, really cheap clothes (often baggy, dirty sweatpants), bathroom slippers. The Japanese version of white trash.
User avatar
keatonatron
 
Posts: 4838
Joined: Sat 02.04.2006 3:31 am
Location: Tokyo (Via Seattle)
Native language: English
Gender: Male

RE: Yakuzas

Postby Reno » Thu 06.01.2006 3:34 am

taku wrote:
karelhof wrote:
why do people in japan don't like to talk about it? are they really so powerful then?
and what are the parts of movies I musntn't belive?:|

well, the things like: " if they do something wrong they cut their fingers" that was before, now the police takes away anyone who has not all the fingers..:D
we dont like talking about them because they are dangerous


This is where The Netherlands differ from Japan. I got to say Japan sounds good but one thing bothers me and that one thing happens to be the strongest point in my (and Karelhof's) country: Speaking your mind. The politeness levels are important there but that also makes it that you dont say what you think to one another. Here we have Hell's Angels and believe me everybody talks open and out loud about them, because we want the problem solved and gone. Thats something I dont see in Japan, but maybe Taku-san can tell me if this is right or not.
Good luck with studying everybody and I hope one day I will be able to pick it back up.

Until then, a nice goodbye from me to you ;)
User avatar
Reno
 
Posts: 375
Joined: Wed 04.26.2006 5:20 am

RE: Yakuzas

Postby keatonatron » Thu 06.01.2006 4:52 am

The police have cracked down on Yakuza activity a lot. The Yakuza aren't nearly as big and powerful as they once were. Historically, organized crime seems to swell in times of economic hardships (i.e. the American Mafia during the depression, the Yakuza after WWII).

The politeness levels in Japan doesn't mean people don't talk about what is important to them. Once you become friends with someone, you can say whatever you want. You won't talk to your boss about "the man",* but you probably wouldn't do that in any other country anyway. You would, however, gripe about it with your coworkers, along with any other social problems you feel a need to talk about.

* "the man" is a common American term refering to those in power; CEO's and bosses of companies that earn all the benefits of their employees' hard work, while the employees don't get adequately compensated.
User avatar
keatonatron
 
Posts: 4838
Joined: Sat 02.04.2006 3:31 am
Location: Tokyo (Via Seattle)
Native language: English
Gender: Male

RE: Yakuzas

Postby aKuMu » Thu 06.01.2006 5:03 am

What I had read is, that most of the Bars/Discos whatever, with the infamous "Japanese only" signs, are lead by Yakuza


but as everyone already said, its not like that you'll be shot or beatup if you cross someones way. i think its much more dangerous (and possible..)to get trouble with someone drunk or yankees (as allready said)

Yakuza members are human and no fight machines with only kill kill kill destroy in their minds
Last edited by aKuMu on Thu 06.01.2006 5:07 am, edited 1 time in total.
aKuMu
 
Posts: 636
Joined: Sun 12.04.2005 8:19 pm
Native language: German

RE: Yakuzas

Postby keatonatron » Thu 06.01.2006 5:55 am

aKuMu wrote:
What I had read is, that most of the Bars/Discos whatever, with the infamous "Japanese only" signs, are lead by Yakuza


Those are hostess bars :D And yes, I think a lot of them are Yakuza-run.

As I said, the Yakuza have become more legit... that is, they've started owning businesses that are, although seedy, technically legal instead of extorting people for money.
User avatar
keatonatron
 
Posts: 4838
Joined: Sat 02.04.2006 3:31 am
Location: Tokyo (Via Seattle)
Native language: English
Gender: Male

Next

Return to Culture and Info about living in Japan

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Bing [Bot] and 8 guests