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book about the west

Postby queshaw » Mon 06.05.2006 3:33 pm

I remember hearing about a Japanese book about western culture. I think it was probably from before WWII, maybe a long time before that. It was described as being like a book American's might typically find about understanding Japanese culture, except for Japanese about the west, written by a Japanese author. It was also described as being unique and hugely popular when it came out.

Does that sound familiar? Do you know if there is an English translation of it? How's that for vague?
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RE: book about the west

Postby hamsterfreak4evr » Mon 06.05.2006 4:19 pm

i have no idea what you're talking about, but this book sounds interesting:)
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RE: book about the west

Postby two_heads_talking » Mon 06.05.2006 4:29 pm

without an author, or a title, you are just as apt to find it from google or another search engine as we would be.. sorry i cannot help you any further
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RE: book about the west

Postby coco » Mon 06.05.2006 6:31 pm

Isn't it 『西洋事情』by 福沢諭吉?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukuzawa_Yukichi
He is a founder of Keio uni.
queshaw-sanは 検索が上手な方だという印象がありますから、
このキーワードでかなり探せると思います。
もし違っていたら、また お知らせください。
(確か日本語もかなりお分かりになりますよね? )
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RE: book about the west

Postby queshaw » Mon 06.05.2006 8:37 pm

I think that is it. せいようじじょ ("Things Western"). 有難うございました。
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RE: book about the west

Postby two_heads_talking » Tue 06.06.2006 9:52 am

nice pull cocosan
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RE: book about the west

Postby Mukade » Tue 06.06.2006 10:16 am

Fukuzawa is such a famous figure that he's pictured on the 10,000 yen note. He was very influential in the political and cultural restructuring of Japan during the Meiji area and best of all - he's from Osaka! ;)
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RE: book about the west

Postby queshaw » Tue 06.06.2006 12:19 pm

I wonder if there is an English translation of it.
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RE: book about the west

Postby coco » Tue 06.06.2006 12:27 pm

I could not find translation version so far.
もう辿り着いたかもしれませんが、念のため。
http://www.kufs.ac.jp/toshokan/50/seiyoj.htm
↑こっちが原著。
http://www.keio-up.co.jp/np/detail_cont ... ods_id=302
↑これが最新書籍だと思います。
英訳はもしかするとないかもしれませんが、
誰かが英語で論文を書いていると思いますよ。
私も原著を読んでいませんが、難しそうですね。

もしご希望でしたら訳書が出ているかどうか、版元に問い合わせてみましょうか?
Shall I ask publisher if there is translation version or not?

edit:
The book title 西洋事情(せいよう じじょう)is translated into"Conditions in the West".
you can see some pages of original on this site. インターネットはすごい。 :o
http://chnm.gmu.edu/declaration/japanes ... apan1.html
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RE: book about the west

Postby queshaw » Tue 06.06.2006 3:15 pm

That would be very nice coco-san.
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RE: book about the west

Postby coco » Tue 06.06.2006 10:23 pm

According the publisher, there is no translation of 西洋事情.
Here is the Keio Uni library website.
http://catalog.lib.keio.ac.jp/index_e.html
It doesn't seems to be published in English yet.
However, since my searching may not be well, please make it sure by yourself.
I hope you can get some nice materials help your interests.

(↑↓通じますか?)

えっと。電話で訊ねてみたところ、出版社の方は「今までのところ、英訳は発行されていなと思います」とのことでした。2002年発行のものは編集者の一人がフランスの方なので、フランス語訳の有無について訊ねたところ、「フランス語訳はしていません」とのことでした。
次に、慶應大学の福澤研究センターに問い合わせましたが、「ないとは思うが即答できない。大学の図書館のサイトはご覧になりましたか?」との回答でしたので、一応見てみましたが、英訳があるようには思えません。
ただし、私の検索/英語迫ヘに問題がある可柏ォもあるので、ご自身で再度、確認してください。
なにか、関連書籍が見つかるといいですね。:)

http://www.alanmacfarlane.com/TEXTS/METHOD.PDF
http://www.alanmacfarlane.com/TEXTS/TRAVEL.PDF@
↑ ここいらにも何かあるかも。( 内容はわからないけど)
また、何かみつけたら、報告します。
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RE: book about the west

Postby queshaw » Wed 06.07.2006 1:02 am

有難うございます。 I haven't found anything on the library site. I can't even find anything by author "Fukuzawa" or 福沢諭吉. I see "Edo Seiyo Jijo". I don't know if that is it.

"Edo Seiyo Jijo" was for sale in USA, but I see no explanation of what it is.
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RE: book about the west

Postby coco » Wed 06.07.2006 1:56 am

I checked it.
江戸西洋事情(えど せいよう じじょう) is not written by 福沢諭吉.
that is written by 金井円 (かないまどか) published in 1988.
Sorry.
I'm not sure though, Dr. Robert L. Gitler could be the one who wrote some about 福沢諭吉.
http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~buckland/gitler.html
He seems to be a benefactor of Keio Uni, he was also close to grandchild of 福沢諭吉.(named 清岡暎一 きよおか・えいいち) Dr. 清岡 had translated 福沢諭吉's biography. But didn't 西洋事情. 

hope that helps.
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RE: book about the west

Postby queshaw » Wed 06.07.2006 8:09 pm

I see there is an autobiography translated into English.

http://bookweb.kinokuniya.co.jp/guest/cgi-bin/bookseaohb.cgi?KEYWORD=%66%75%6B%75%7A%61%77%61+%79%75%6B%69%63%68%69&AREA=02

That might have some of the same subject matter in it. Maybe the library near me has it.
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