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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Infidel » Thu 08.24.2006 11:42 am

Mike Cash wrote:

Out of curiosity, did you seek any employment where English was a hindrance, and if so, what was it?


One of those Onsen with the go away foreigner signs?
なるほど。
さっぱりわからん。
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Mike Cash » Thu 08.24.2006 1:31 pm

two_heads_talking wrote:
Mike Cash wrote:

In my case, I had to go to Nagoya to find a job where my English was an asset and not a hinderance.


Out of curiosity, did you seek any employment where English was a hindrance, and if so, what was it?


i think he meant knowing english and not japanese was the hindrance.. but i think you knew that already :o


I made no baseless assumption regarding his Japanese ability. But I am new here, and I suppose you know him better than I do.

The way his post is written makes it sound as though he exercised the option to move and gain employment that makes use of his English rather than remain where he was and gain employment that did not make use of his English. From this one can only infer Japanese ability. Wherein lies my error?
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Ongakuka » Thu 08.24.2006 1:57 pm

Wherein lies my error?


"From this one can infer can only infer Japanese ability."
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Mike Cash » Thu 08.24.2006 2:15 pm

Ongakuka wrote:
Wherein lies my error?


"From this one can infer can only infer Japanese ability."


And from that one can infer poor proofreading.
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Harisenbon » Thu 08.24.2006 7:56 pm

The way his post is written makes it sound as though he exercised the option to move and gain employment that makes use of his English rather than remain where he was and gain employment that did not make use of his English. From this one can only infer Japanese ability. Wherein lies my error?


I think I should have been a little more clear, when I said that my English would have been a detriment, I was referring to being a foreigner with a non-perfect grasp of Japanese, rather than being turned down because of my Englilsh ability.

The main fear was that while I could converse and carry on business in Japanese, that a non-native understanding of Japan and it's culture would hinder me in the workplace (I was searching for graphic design and advertising jobs. Many companies were worried that I wouldn't be able to grasp/come up with catch phrases, nor be able to design graphics for a Japanese audience).

If you're looking to find a job in Japan that does not have an English component, your Japanese must generally be of the same level (or better) than a native Japanese speaker, in order to overcome the stereotype (and often hassle) of hiring a foreigner. It is the simple fact that for a normal job, there is no reason for a company to hire a foreigner over a native who posseses the same skill set.

And now, back to work. ;)
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby magma » Thu 08.24.2006 8:41 pm

It is the simple fact that for a normal job, there is no reason for a company to hire a foreigner over a native who posseses the same skill set.


Affirmative action? :p
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby AJBryant » Thu 08.24.2006 10:47 pm

Keith, I just wanna say:

I love Sekigahara.

Then again, I did write the book. :)


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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Harisenbon » Fri 08.25.2006 4:57 am

Tony,

I have actually seen your Sekigahara book for sale (although not in Sekigahara, unfortunately). Sekigahara is one of my favorite towns in Japan, even if it is completely cut off from the rest of the surroundings. And only has one crappy super-market. :(

Have you ever been to the Sekigahara museum there?

oh and...

Affirmative action?


We are still talking about Japan, right? ;)
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby magma » Fri 08.25.2006 8:11 am

Affirmative action?

We are still talking about Japan, right?

Time to organize the 弁護士 from the JCLU and right this injustice! :)
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby AJBryant » Fri 08.25.2006 11:24 am

Have you ever been to the Sekigahara museum there?


Is a bear Catholic? Does the Pope poop in the woods? ;)

Yeah, several times. It's not a big museum, and considering the importance of Sekigahara it's actually kinda sad, but it has a few things in it I *really* like.

Have you been to Sekigahara Warland? Great stuff in the armour displays, but the actual "warland park" is just... well, sad -- in a pathetic sorta way. Yeah, I still go there every time I get to Sekigahara -- but I go for the armour.


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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby two_heads_talking » Fri 08.25.2006 11:28 am

AJBryant wrote:
Have you ever been to the Sekigahara museum there?


Is a bear Catholic? Does the Pope poop in the woods? ;)
Tony


erm no and no.. ??? :o
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Mike Cash » Fri 08.25.2006 5:45 pm

magma wrote:
Affirmative action?

We are still talking about Japan, right?

Time to organize the 弁護士 from the JCLU and right this injustice! :)


The indignity of affirmative action is something I can do without.
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby StarvingMusician » Fri 08.25.2006 6:46 pm

-Tokyo Japan apartments- the only affordable hole in the wall is about 230 square feet. Around 15x15. It's pretty much just for sleep..oh how resourceful the japanese are using every ounce of space. Thus I must become very frugal. I want to get a band going in Japan, maybe I'll go solo for a while. I know that for a while I'll probably have no money. Woo, most likely forced to leave, but it's worth a try. Persistence brings results.
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby Harisenbon » Sat 08.26.2006 2:06 am

Have you been to Sekigahara Warland? Great stuff in the armour displays, but the actual "warland park" is just... well, sad -- in a pathetic sorta way. Yeah, I still go there every time I get to Sekigahara -- but I go for the armour.


I've been driven BY Warland, but I've never gone in, because I've heard it's not very interesting. The semi-lifesize samurai statues all standing around killing eachother look pretty nifty, but that's the only thing that stuck in my mind about the place.

I wished they milked the history aspect of Sekigahara for more. There are tours and people coming almost any time of day, all year round, and there's nowhere for them to spend their money, or learn about the history. They're sitting on a major cash-cow, and the only thing there is to do there now is to look at rice patties. [rant off]

In 2000, they did a 600 year anniversary thing, and had a bunch of people dress up and re-inact the battle. I, unfortunately, wasn't here, but I've seen the pictures. I'm going to try to be in the 700 year anniversary. I'll be the leper general (I forget his name).
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RE: Moving to Japan...

Postby cookie_moon » Sat 08.26.2006 5:47 am

to go in japan :

Economise an amount of money ^^
know the Japanese language :p
know english language B)

Ow d*mn work but I will try ;)
The power is with me (I hope)
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