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Four letter words

Postby keatonatron » Wed 10.18.2006 11:45 am

Does anyone know of an online list of 4-character adverbs (the ones that often come in the form ○っ○○)?

Like:
たっぷり
しっかり
ぴったり
すっきり
じっと

I often have a hard time keeping them all straight, and I need to study them for a test this weekend... Of course, it's hard to study if you don't know which ones exist--and I'm not about to go through the dictionary trying out random combinations :D
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RE: Four letter words

Postby prep_girl_Nessa » Wed 10.18.2006 12:08 pm

Is that some kind of special adverb? It's kinda weird that you would be expected to know that and not know which ones they are, or even if such a list exist, and still have a test. It sounds like someone's teacher is a bit lazy.

Or maybe I just don't know what this is and it's really some grammer point I totally missed. Probably that.
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RE: Four letter words

Postby paul_b » Wed 10.18.2006 1:21 pm

keatonatron wrote:
Does anyone know of an online list of 4-character adverbs (the ones that often come in the form ○っ○○)?

Like:
たっぷり
しっかり
ぴったり
すっきり
じっと

Since when is じっと four characters?

Anyway this is the sort of question that databases are made for. There are 146 adverbs in Edict in the form ○っ○○

あっさり
あったら
いっかい
いっかど
いっきに
いっきょ
いっけん
いっこう
いっこく
いっさい
いっしゅ
いっしょ
いっしん
いっせい
いっせき
いっそう
いっそく
いったい
いったん
いってき
いってに
いってん
いっとき
いっぱい
いっぱし
いっぱつ
いっぴつ
いっぺん
いっぽう
うっかり
うっすら
うっそう
うっとり
おっかけ
おっつけ
かくかく
かっかく
かっかと
がっかり
がっくり
がっしり
かっちり
がっちり
かってに
がっぷり
きっかり
ぎっしり
きっちり
ぎっちり
きっぱり
くっきり
ぐっすり
ぐったり
げっかに
けっこう
けっして
げっそり
げったん
こくこく
こっこく
こっそり
ごっそり
ごっちゃ
こってり
さっこん
さっさと
さっそう
さっそく
さっぱり
しっかい
しっかり
じっくり
じっさい
すかっと
すっかり
すっきり
すっくと
ずっしり
すっぱり
すっぽり
せっかく
せっせと
ぜったい
そっくり
そっこく
ぞっこん
たっぷり
ちっとも
てっきり
どっかと
どっかり
どっきり
ドッキリ
とっくに
とっさに
どっさり
どっしり
とっても
とっとと
とっぷり
どっぷり
にっこり
にっせき
ねっから
はっきり
ぱっくり
はっしと
ばったり
ばっちり
ぱっちり
びっくり
ビックリ
ひっしに
びっしり
ひっせい
ひっそり
ぴったり
ひとかど
ひとくさ
ひとふで
ふっくら
べっして
べったり
ぺったり
ぽっかり
ぽっきり
ぽっくり
ほっこり
ほっそり
ぽってり
まっすぐ
まったく
まっぴら
みっちり
むっつり
めっきり
めったに
めっぽう
もっこん
もっとも
もっぱら
やっとこ
やっぱり
ゆっくり
ゆったり
よっぽど
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RE: Four letter words

Postby clay » Wed 10.18.2006 1:51 pm

That would be a nice vocab list for the Wiki (or as an article)

Since when is じっと four characters?


Only when you are really staring:
じ 〜 っと
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RE: Four letter words

Postby Mike Cash » Wed 10.18.2006 2:18 pm

Add もっこり
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RE: Four letter words

Postby two_heads_talking » Wed 10.18.2006 2:58 pm

やっはり is also one

looking through that list it had the origin やはり without the っ. now, maybe age is catching up with me, but I could have sworn both やっはり and やっぱり were the same with the exception of the coloquialization.. or maybe once again, i learned tohokuben and not real japanese.. doh!
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RE: Four letter words

Postby paul_b » Wed 10.18.2006 3:00 pm

Mike Cash wrote:
Add もっこり

I'm impressed.

That is in Edict but it doesn't have an adv tag. It should do though - I've submitted an amendment.
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RE: Four letter words

Postby flammable hippo » Wed 10.18.2006 3:34 pm

Hhmm, try this site. It has an entire article about these adverbs and the author gives a whole bunch of examples and shows how to use them to.

http://www.timwerx.net/language/sp_adverbs.htm
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RE: Four letter words

Postby paul_b » Wed 10.18.2006 3:48 pm

two_heads_talking wrote:
やっはり is also one

looking through that list it had the origin やはり without the っ. now, maybe age is catching up with me, but I could have sworn both やっはり and やっぱり were the same with the exception of the coloquialization.. or maybe once again, i learned tohokuben and not real japanese.. doh!

やっはり has reasonable absolute yahoo.co.jp hits (34,000) but is massively overwhelmed by やはり and やっぱり.
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RE: Four letter words

Postby the_haunted_boy » Wed 10.18.2006 6:44 pm

When I saw this topic that sayed "Four letter words" I was thnking something else.
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RE: Four letter words

Postby Harisenbon » Wed 10.18.2006 7:41 pm

Goth_Guy wrote:
When I saw this topic that sayed "Four letter words" I was thnking something else.


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RE: Four letter words

Postby keatonatron » Wed 10.18.2006 9:38 pm

paul_b wrote:
Since when is じっと four characters?


The "often" in "the ones that often come in the form ○っ○○" was supposed to apply for the "4-letter" bit too. じっと is similar to the others in that it is not made of kanji and it really describes the way something is done, unlike よく or また.

prep_girl_Nessa wrote:
It sounds like someone's teacher is a bit lazy.


I don't have a teacher.

It's for an entrance exam. I took a practice test, and there were a few questions where I had to choose the appropriate adverb like those above, and the choices were all ones I hadn't heard before :|

Thanks for the list Paul. Can you search for patterns like that over the web, or did you do it with the downloaded file?
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RE: Four letter words

Postby paul_b » Thu 10.19.2006 12:21 am

keatonatron wrote:
Thanks for the list Paul. Can you search for patterns like that over the web, or did you do it with the downloaded file?

That was from a downloaded file, in a database after some processing. Is that enough to keep you busy or should I hunt up 3 character ones when I have the chance?
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RE: Four letter words

Postby keatonatron » Thu 10.19.2006 7:39 am

Are there very many 3-character ones? If it's as easy as typing *っ* into your database query program, I sure wouldn't mind the list of 3-character ones :D
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RE: Four letter words

Postby paul_b » Thu 10.19.2006 7:49 am

keatonatron wrote:
Are there very many 3-character ones? If it's as easy as typing *っ* into your database query program, I sure wouldn't mind the list of 3-character ones :D


It's not quite _that_ simple but here they are.

あっと
いっし
いっそ
いっぽ
おって
かっか
かっこ
かって
かつて
かっと
きっと
ぐっと
けっか
けっく
こっか
さっと
ざっと
じっと
すっと
そっと
ぞっと
たった
ちっと
どこか
どっか
どっと
ぬっと
のっと
はっと
ぱっと
ふっと
ほっと
ぽっと
むっと
もっか
もっと
やっと
やっぱ
やはり
わっと
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