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くん and ちゃん

Post by suko » Fri 03.02.2007 2:05 pm

When do you use these and what is the differnece?

Just while we're talking about these, is there a kanji for くん or ちゃん?

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by keatonatron » Fri 03.02.2007 2:17 pm

They're suffixes for names to turn a normal name into a cutesy pet name.

くん is mostly for boys, ちゃん is mostly for girls, however exceptions aren't uncommon.

Often times names will be shortened before the suffix is added.

i.e.
てつや -> てっちゃん

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by Yudan Taiteki » Fri 03.02.2007 3:53 pm

Kun has a kanji 君, although it's often written in kana as well. ちゃん does not have a kanji.
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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by Tspoonami » Fri 03.02.2007 6:20 pm

I think the kanji for ちゃん should be 豔.
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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by tanuki » Fri 03.02.2007 9:01 pm

Tspoonami wrote:
I think the kanji for ちゃん should be 豔.


Really? As far as I know (which isn't much), ちゃん is some kind of deformation of さん, which itself has no kanji. So ちゃん has no kanji, either.
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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by BetterSense » Fri 03.02.2007 11:13 pm

what about ~たん?

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by Dehitay » Fri 03.02.2007 11:14 pm

tanuki wrote:
Tspoonami wrote:
I think the kanji for ちゃん should be 豔.


Really? As far as I know (which isn't much), ちゃん is some kind of deformation of さん, which itself has no kanji. So ちゃん has no kanji, either.


That's the impression I'm under as well. If I recall right, children sometimes mispronounce the 's' sound as 'ch' and end up saying stuff like 'dechu' instead of 'desu'. My guess would be 'chan' probly came from 'san' and it would also explains 'chama'. However, I'm not entirely sure if that's where it spawned from.
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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by Tspoonami » Fri 03.02.2007 11:26 pm

tanuki wrote:
Really? As far as I know (which isn't much), ちゃん is some kind of deformation of さん, which itself has no kanji. So ちゃん has no kanji, either.

... I was joking.

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by dark_fire11 » Fri 03.02.2007 11:45 pm

Hey Tspoonami, what does that kanji actually mean? I've never seen anything so complex. The dictionaries I tried didn't even have it.

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by Tspoonami » Sat 03.03.2007 12:11 am

Well, I got it partially randomly, but it apparently means 'plump, voluptuous, or beautiful.'
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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by keatonatron » Sat 03.03.2007 12:23 am

tanuki wrote:
ちゃん is some kind of deformation of さん, which itself has no kanji.


Are you sure about that, 狸山? :D

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by Infidel » Sat 03.03.2007 1:56 am

Hey!
なるほど。
さっぱりわからん。

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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by AJBryant » Sat 03.03.2007 2:18 am

But what about the famous mountain, Mr. Fuji?


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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by tanuki » Sat 03.03.2007 9:53 am

keatonatron wrote:
Are you sure about that, 狸山? :D


That must be one dandy mountain.
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RE: くん and ちゃん

Post by flammable hippo » Sat 03.03.2007 10:08 am

AJBryant wrote:
But what about the famous mountain, Mr. Fuji?


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Don't be silly, Fuji-san is obviously Ms. Fuji.
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