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歴史について質問

Postby Ongakuka » Wed 04.04.2007 2:32 pm

Hi everyone, it's me.

I'm writing a fictional novel based at the very beginning of the Edo period, starting around the time of Sekigahara. I want to be as accurate as possible, but even with research there are questions that remain and sources that need proving.

I'm under the impression that gunpowder was introduced to Japan (by the portugese) before 1600. However I'm uncertain as to whether the "early rifle" would be manufactured and maintained by samurai once Ieyasu gained power. For example, would guns be used in the Osaka castle siege? I appreciate that few people may be able to answer this question, but if I can get an answer it will help give me the bigger picture.
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby AJBryant » Wed 04.04.2007 3:54 pm

You know, history books HAVE this stuff. If you read *anything* about the Osaka campaigns, they'll talk about the cannons.


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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby Kagemaru » Wed 04.04.2007 6:39 pm

For an earlier battle where arquebuses were used effectively, take a look at Oda/Tokugawa vs Takeda at Nagashino 1575.
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby Shirasagi » Thu 04.05.2007 3:37 pm

Once firearms were introduced to Japan, they remained an integral part of the combat scene throughout Japanese history. Hikone Castle, built post-Sekigahara, has holes in the walls specifically for the use of firearms on an invader. Matchlocks were used through the Tokugawa period for dealing with peasant uprisings.
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby coco » Fri 04.06.2007 2:33 pm

kagemaruさんがすでに答えてくださっていますが、長篠合戦図屏風(←)が徳川美術館のサイトにありましたのでご参考までに。

もっとも三千挺という数字は今では疑問視されています。
鉄砲伝来の研究の一端はここで読めます。
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby Ongakuka » Fri 04.06.2007 3:58 pm

Thanks to everyone who posted here, I promise to make good use of all your explanations and advice :)
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby ghosthacker » Sat 04.07.2007 3:34 pm

By the time of Sekigahara guns had outpaced the bow on the battlefield and many Daimyo had access to gun producing factories.

EDIT..I should point out that guns where not used much for "one on one" combat (though Ninja did employ them on an individual scale). They where used mostly in large scale battles. Therefore an individual samurai would not have had his own gun.
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby ghosthacker » Sat 04.07.2007 3:55 pm

AJBryant wrote:
You know, history books HAVE this stuff. If you read *anything* about the Osaka campaigns, they'll talk about the cannons.


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Yeap, though unlike guns the Japanese where not very good at the use or making of cannons (compared to western powers) and in some cases had help from Dutch ships when cannon fire was needed.
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby AJBryant » Sat 04.07.2007 8:19 pm

Yup, they even "rented" the guns from time to time.

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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby Infidel » Sat 04.07.2007 8:39 pm

bleh, I always forget if it is reishiki or reikishi
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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby flammable hippo » Sat 04.07.2007 8:45 pm

bleh, I always forget if it is reishiki or reikishi


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RE: 歴史について質問

Postby Infidel » Sat 04.07.2007 9:32 pm

right, the problem is, every time I see that word, I have to look up the reading again. I know what it means, but I always get confused about the pronounciation.
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