
particles???
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particles???
Will someone please help me? I'm beyond confused about how to use the particles, especially ga and wa. 

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Wow I didn't think people would reply so quickly. Thank you! I'll let you know if they help
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Daichi...is that cloud strife in ur avatar????
p.s sorry if this is spamming
p.s sorry if this is spamming
I don't understand.......Why can't i fly????
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Yup, its Cloud from the Advent Children...(sorry if I wasn't supposed to answer that...).
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Please, that is what PM's are for.AaRoN wrote:
Daichi...is that cloud strife in ur avatar????
p.s sorry if this is spamming
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When I was at my local book store buying new books to continue my study of Japanese I saw a book that was 200 pages long and listed over 100 particles. >_<
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RE: particles???
Toriyama,
over 100 particles? There aren't even that many characters in Japanese. Maybe 100 uses of particles? But even that seems a little high.
My friend has a book with 20 pages devoted to わ and が. I have one (japanese) will about 4. The Unicom books for the 2・1級 日本語迫ヘ試験 has a really good reference. You can buy it in clay's store.
over 100 particles? There aren't even that many characters in Japanese. Maybe 100 uses of particles? But even that seems a little high.
My friend has a book with 20 pages devoted to わ and が. I have one (japanese) will about 4. The Unicom books for the 2・1級 日本語迫ヘ試験 has a really good reference. You can buy it in clay's store.
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RE: particles???
Harisenbon, some books count many things as particles. i'm not sure what native speakers would consider a particle, but for instance my A Dictionary of Japanese Particles (Kawashima) counts over 100. they include combination particles and just about everything else that might go after a phrase to give a more specific meaning. things like: kara, made, dake, tene, tewa, toieba, tomo, tomoare, nodearu, nagaramo, and so on.Harisenbon wrote:
over 100 particles? There aren't even that many characters in Japanese. Maybe 100 uses of particles? But even that seems a little high.
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YAY! The websites helped alot! Thanx! On the other hand I'm having trouble understanding how to use desu, arimasu, and imasu ::pout::
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As far as I have learned, desu is purely an equaliser eg. "I = big" translates as "watashi wa ooki(sp?) desu". "Arimasu" and "imasu" are used for the other uses of the verb "to be"- "arimasu" for non-living things and plants, and "imasu" is used for living things (not including plants).
Hope that helps.
Hope that helps.
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Uhh ::scratches head:: no not really. When you say I= big do you mean like when you use desu it tells you that I is big? I don't understand what you meant for arimasu ir imasu at all. Sorry...maybe if you gave me a bunkei [sample sentence]?
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It's bunREI. :O What he means is 'desu' is used for "X = Y" sentences.
Watashi ha gakusei desu. I am a student. (I = student -- they are the same/equal)
Ringo ha oishii desu. Apples are delicious. (Apples = delicious -- again, equal)
Arimasu means 'to exist (for non-living things).
Toshokan ga arimasu. There is a library.
Watashi no heya de terebi ga arimasu. There is a TV in my room.
Imasu is 'to exist (for living things).
Tanaka-san ha toshokan ni imasu. Tanaka-san is in the library.
Isu no shita ni neko ga imasu. There is a cat under the chair.
How was that?
Watashi ha gakusei desu. I am a student. (I = student -- they are the same/equal)
Ringo ha oishii desu. Apples are delicious. (Apples = delicious -- again, equal)
Arimasu means 'to exist (for non-living things).
Toshokan ga arimasu. There is a library.
Watashi no heya de terebi ga arimasu. There is a TV in my room.
Imasu is 'to exist (for living things).
Tanaka-san ha toshokan ni imasu. Tanaka-san is in the library.
Isu no shita ni neko ga imasu. There is a cat under the chair.
How was that?
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sry forgot about pm i'll do that in the futureDaisuke wrote:Please, that is what PM's are for.AaRoN wrote:
Daichi...is that cloud strife in ur avatar????
p.s sorry if this is spamming
p.s can other particles be learn through conversation????
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I don't understand.......Why can't i fly????