"Kure" wa nan desu ka?

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"Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby Danyoru » Fri 05.19.2006 2:29 pm

I often hear the word "kure" in Japanese movies, especially in anime.
Does anyone know what it mean exactly?
In Princess Mononoke Ashitaka says to Hakul:

"Koko de matte kure"

Even without the "kure" you can guess the general meaning: "Wait here for me."
So is "kure" like a personal word related to the person speaking?
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby redfoxer » Fri 05.19.2006 2:31 pm

kure = informal kudasai

koko de matte kure = please wait here (thats what i would of translated it as)
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby two_heads_talking » Fri 05.19.2006 3:07 pm

kure is the base command form of kureru or the informal form of kudasaru..

matte kudasai = polite

matte kure = informal but more like a command.. you will hear men use this more often than women and women would most likely use the nasaru form

machinasai..
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby keatonatron » Fri 05.19.2006 11:19 pm

It's not the informal of kudasai-- that would be kureru. "kure" is the (rude, strong) command form of kureru.

Just like "Ike!" means "Get out of here!", "kure" means "Give it to me!"

Used in conjunction with another verb, you get the rude, command form of "do this for me"

If you used is as the informal of kudasai, and said it to your friends whenever you wanted them to do something, you would appear very angry and, again, totally Yakuza.
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby AJBryant » Sat 05.20.2006 12:42 am

It's also a pleading form. It depends on context.


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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby adam » Sat 05.20.2006 1:24 am

i'm gonna have to disagree a bit here.
the forms for requests are here

they all pretty much mean the same thing

matte kudasaimasen ka?
matte kudasai
matte kuremasu ka?
matte kuremasen ka?
matte kureru ?
matte kurenai?
matte kure

I know i'm forgetting one or two others but i can't seem to recall them right now

When you use kureru form, you are kind of asking someone to do something for you. kudasai can just be used as request generally, not necessarily as in your direction. kure is usually rude but not always if used with friends. I've heard it plenty of times in casual situations. kudasaimasen ka, is the keigo version.
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby AJBryant » Sat 05.20.2006 9:30 am

That's pretty much it. "Kure" is really just a less formal (i.e., more personal) form of "kudasai." It really depends largely on context as to how insisting, pleading, or plain, the meaning is. But essentially, it's just the informal "please."


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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby two_heads_talking » Mon 05.22.2006 12:30 pm

keatonatron wrote:
It's not the informal of kudasai-- that would be kureru. "kure" is the (rude, strong) command form of kureru..


i am going back with this a little but kudasai and kure are the commands.. kudasaru (not used much anymore) is the polite form and kureru is the impolite/informal form.. i might not have been clear, but that was the intent of my posts..

also, kudasai/kudasaru and nasai/nasaru are a few words that have been standardized in their plain (kudasi/nasai) forms..
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby AJBryant » Mon 05.22.2006 1:21 pm

Anyone who has ever heard anyone *say* "blahblahblah kudasai" or "blahblahblah kure" *knows* it's not a command but a reqest, REGARDLESS of the grammatic structure. This is one of those (many) cases where the use trumps the literal meaning.


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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby clay » Mon 05.22.2006 4:03 pm

On a side note, my name being クレイ caused me much confusion at first. In the teacher's room I'd hear it constantly. I wondered why everyone was talking about me - especially when they were speaking to someone else.

I still turn my head sometimes when I hear it.

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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby two_heads_talking » Mon 05.22.2006 5:11 pm

AJBryant wrote:
Anyone who has ever heard anyone *say* "blahblahblah kudasai" or "blahblahblah kure" *knows* it's not a command but a reqest, REGARDLESS of the grammatic structure. This is one of those (many) cases where the use trumps the literal meaning.


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YES, that is very true. like i said, i was going way back with the meaning.. probably back further than i should, but then again i have always been interested in linguistics and how and why they are used..

obviously the command form of something would be from yaru to yaro.. or yameru to yamero but that is another post all together
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby hungryhotei » Mon 05.22.2006 5:35 pm

The 命令形 of やる is actually やれ not やろ, because it is a normal godan verb.

You weren't going way back with the meaning, くださる and くれる (which are different words not polite and informal forms) are actually commonly used in other conjugations than the 命令形 so its important to know these dictionary forms.

くださる and くれる are actually just forming their 命令形 in a different way to most verbs, its still the same 命令形 as やれ。 くれる seems a bit special but a number of other verbs form their 命令形 in the same way as くださる like なさる for example. As Tony said its obviously used as a request not a command in the case of these verbs, even though they are in the 命令形.
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby Seijiro Hiko » Mon 05.22.2006 6:51 pm

AJBryant wrote:
Anyone who has ever heard anyone *say* "blahblahblah kudasai" or "blahblahblah kure" *knows* it's not a command but a reqest, REGARDLESS of the grammatic structure. This is one of those (many) cases where the use trumps the literal meaning.


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Hah! You sounded like my ex-algebra, algebraII, calculus teacheR!:D He used "blah" as a way to downplay the meaning of variables. 2"blah"+7pi"blah"=cos(ohmygoodlordwhatisthiscomplexequationthingIdon'tcomprehend!?)squared

thanks for the info on kure!

No not you clay. :p
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby clay » Mon 05.22.2006 8:16 pm

You guys are way too technical for me. :o

You learned me good.
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RE: "Kure" wa nan desu ka?

Postby coco » Mon 05.22.2006 9:02 pm

clay wrote:
I still turn my head sometimes when I hear it.

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