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Everyone was new at one time or another, but that won't draw much mercy when you come into a new place and start stepping on people's toes instead of shaking their hands.  Everyone has standards of respect; failing to meet these standards will draw contempt and ridicule, yet there is hope.  All you need to do is take a little time to show others respect by composing your messages seriously.  I'm making this list because even though some of these should fall under the heading: Common Sense, the others are truly learned behaviors.  If you've never seen a list like this before--rest assured--these rules will serve you well on any forum.<br>
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日本人の参加者も増えてきたので、念のため日本語を書き添えます。(基本的にはネット常識の範囲ですが、やや異なる点もあります。)
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<center> <h1>Welcome to The Japanese Page Forum Etiquette!</h1> </center>
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==Etiquette for online forums==
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1.  Always read at least 50 posts before posting! 少なくとも過去1カ月程度の書き込みに目を通した上で投稿しましょう。<br>
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:Nothing draws ridicule faster than asking a question right above someone else who asked the same question or correcting someone that's already been corrected. At the very least, read through an entire thread before posting to make sure someone else didn't already make your point.  If you feel that the thread has too many pages to read them all, skip to the end and read the last 2 pages before posting on the thread.<br>
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2.  Always read the [http://s152453462.onlinehome.us/w/index.php?title=Just_the_FAQs FAQs] or any "[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=138 Read before posting]" messages. 「FAQ」と「Read before posting」に定期的に目を通すようにしましょう。<br> 
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:Posting a question answered in the FAQ will not make you friends.  "Read before Posting" rules usually specify forum specific rules that often go beyond standard etiquette.  Be sure to read it. <br>
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:Japという略称は使わないように勧告されていますので、日本人の方も使わないようにお願いします。この呼称が広まることで特に不快な思いをなさるのは在外邦人・日系人の方々です。[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1502 参照] 同様にGaijinという言葉を不快に感じる方が少なからずいることはFAQにあるスレッドのとおりです。<br>
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3.  Write respectfully. 礼節をもって書き込みましょう。<br>
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:This in not just modes of address but showing good grammar and spelling as well as following standard internet protocols: such as avoiding writing in ALL CAPS and using pertinent thread titles. Forums are not like a chat room with text wizzing by.  Posters are expected to take the time to write well.  Remember, if you respect your readers your readers will respect you.  Learning a language means you take effective communication seriously. Prove it.<br>
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:TJPのメンバーは国籍も年齢もさまざまです。読者はあなたより年長者で社会経験が豊富な方である可能性も高いのです。また書き込んだ日本語が学習され、そのまま使用される可能性がありますし、どの程度の敬意表現であるか問われる場合もあります。[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=10472 (参照)] 良識ある言葉遣いを心掛けてください。<br>
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4.  Don't spam. 回答がつかない場合でも催促するのはやめましょう。<br>  
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:Make one post.  Always give at least 24 hours before complaining no one answered your post.  If you answer two or more people, edit all your responses into one post.<br>
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5.  Before posting, google your question.  質問する前に検索サイトで調べてみましょう。<br>
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:If your question is answered in the top 5 google hits, people will consider you too lazy to bother helping. <br>
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6.  Use the forum search function. フォーラム検索を充分に活用しましょう。
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:If the forum has a search function, use it before posting.<br>
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7.  Don't ask for help without showing that you did make an effort on your own. TJPは英語の翻訳サイトではありません。<br>
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:If you ask for help and show you made an effort, you automatically made friends who will extremely helpful.<br>
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8.  Don't Necropost without cause. コメントしたい議論の投稿日を確認するようにしましょう。<br>
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:Necroposting is posting on a thread that was dead and buried and bringing it back to life.  You avoid necroposting by looking at the Posted date.  If the thread was controversial let it stay buried; if the thread seems pertinent then it should be ok to necropost.  The important point is not to chime in on a heated discussion that ended years ago.<br>
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:[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=7662 参照]<br>
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9.  Be brief.  質問は簡潔にまとめましょう。<br>
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:The more concise your post the more people that will read it and potentially reply.
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10. Use white space. 読みやすいように工夫して書きましょう。<br>
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:Big blocks of text are difficult to read.  If you break up your paragraphs with a full blank line, more people will read them.
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11. Don't post big pictures in the text. 大きすぎる写真の投稿は避けましょう。<br> 
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:Big pictures tend to ruin the forum formatting.  Always post big pictures as a link, thumbnail links are ok.
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:画面のレイアウトを乱すような大きな写真の投稿は避けてください。<br>
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12. Avoid posting long URLs. 長いURLを引用する場合はリンクを埋め込みましょう。<br>
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:Long URLs can also ruin the page formatting and just look bad.  Some members use tinyurl.com but I suggest just making a link.  Type the text you want to link then highlight it.  On the composition window there will be a button for URL.  Click it with the text highlighted and the text will now be surrounded by <nowiki>[url]your text[/url]</nowiki> after the first url type = then paste the URL. so it will look like this. <nowiki>[url=http://www.google.com]Google[/url]</nowiki>  If you post like this, the readers will just see the link for Google with the rest hidden.<br>
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:1行では納まらないURLアドレスが画面のレイアウトを乱すことがあるそうです。そのため長いURLを記載する場合は、リンクの埋め込みが推奨されています。[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=3029 参照] 埋め込み方法は<nowiki>[url=http://www.google.com]Google[/url]</nowiki> です。リンク先のアドレスの前に<font color='green'>[url=</font> を入れ、リンクしたい言葉(ここではGoogle)の先頭を <font color='green'> ]</font> で閉じ、その言葉の末尾に<font color='green'>[/url]</font>を入れます。<br>
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13. Don't hijack threads. スレッドの乗っ取りはやめましょう。<br>
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:Making a post that does not even relate to a previous post on the thread is considered hijacking.  Another form of hijacking is to transform someone else's thread into your own by asking a new question on someone else's thread.  The standard rule for posting is one thread one question.  It's best to start a new thread if you have a new question.  Be warned, hijacking a tread is a form of contempt.  If regular members start hijacking your thread, then it's usually a sign you broke one of the rules of etiquette.<br>
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:スレッド・ハイジャックの定義は微妙ですが、他の人が立てたスレッドで会話の流れにそぐわない質問をすることは嫌われています。英語表現について質問する場合も、この点に注意が必要です。[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=4779#p48243 参照] [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5684 参照]<br>
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:ただし スレッドの趣旨から考えて[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=6643 英語の語法と質問]は、英語に関する質問である限りスレッド・ハイジャックにはあたりません。<br>
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14. Don't insult the moderators. 管理者・運営者へは敬意を払いましょう。<br>
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:This is relatively common sense for everyone, but it unfortunately occurs much too often. Firstly, a moderator is someone who has special administrative privileges to help maintain the website and keep everyone in harmony. Every person you talk to on this website should be treated respectfully as you should treat a relative or nobleman; everyone.
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15. Don't troll. 煽りを目的とした投稿はやめましょう。<br>
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If you are new member, we highly suggest paying close attention to what is written down here. Although for most people this information would be known as common sense, it does not hurt to look over it anyhow. We appreciate your corporation. Thank you! <br>
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:Trolling is deliberately stirring controversy. There are different types of Trolls, but all like to stir up trouble.
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16. Don't feed the trolls. 煽りや荒らしにエサを与えるのはやめましょう。<br>
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Every member is expected to abide by all rules and polices presented by The Japanese Page. Bad or questionable behavior will not be tolerated whatsoever under any circumstances. Failure to comply will lead to an immediate ban without prior warning. Returning repeat offenders IP address will be blocked from viewing our website. Behave like a mature adult or go somewhere else. We want this website to be enjoyable for everyone alike. You get more bees with honey than with vinegar and the same can be said about people too.
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:Now that you know what a troll is, you know how to fight them. A troll feeds on attention so ignore them and don't respond. If you ignore them, they will stop.  
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17. Don't flame. 冷静に議論しましょう。<br>
 
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:If you have a problem with a post, only address your problems with the post.  Never insult the poster.  Flaming is dedicating an entire post, or series of posts, to insulting another poster.
 
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18. Never ask another member to break the rules of Internet Safety. 個人情報に配慮しましょう。<br>
 
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:Asking for someone's personal information such as an e-mail address on a public forum is a <em><strong>bad thing</strong></em>. Posting non-members personal information with or without their permission is strictly prohibited and you will be immediately banned without warning. This includes celebrity figures. If you are unfamiliar with basic internet safety, then please neither post nor request anything outside TheJapanesePage website. We here feel that personal safety should always be taken seriously.<br>
 
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:個人名(フルネーム)や住所が記載された質問は、注意を促すようにしましょう。[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8227#p95821 参考][http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=6845 参照]
 
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:また趣旨が極めて不可解なものは運営者への通知をお願いします。[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3325 参照]<br>
 
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19. Take the time to say thank you. 回答へのお礼を忘れずに。<br>
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:We're here to help each other out, so saying thank you means a lot. <br>
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:You are required to do this, therefore it is not optional. This is to keep the website clean from unwanted content for all our viewers both young and old. <br>
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:基本です。<br>
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20. Respect <em>copyrights</em>! 著作権に配慮しましょう。<br>  
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* <h3>Read "FAQs" plus “Read before posting” threads!</h3>
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:At all times please respect copyrights by not posting song lyrics or anything else that falls beyond the bounds of <em><strong>fair use</strong></em>. Don't recommend websites known for pirating, torrents and/or have a conversation recommending illegal activities of any form or likeness. If you're not sure it is legal, do not post it whatsoever.  
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:You are obligated to read all “FAQs” along with "Read before Posting" threads before posting any information in our forums. If there are resources already there, use them first before taking that additional step. It can be both a waste of your time as well as ours. Our members frown at people who ask answered questions. <br>
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:JASRACが権利を持つ歌詞の引用は特に厳しい対応が予想され、サイト運営者の責任が問われる可能性もあります。質問者の引用が著作権に抵触するか否か判断の上で対応をお願いします。同様に質問する際にも著作権にご配慮ください。<br>
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Current revision as of 18:04, 25 May 2011


Welcome to The Japanese Page Forum Etiquette!

If you are new member, we highly suggest paying close attention to what is written down here. Although for most people this information would be known as common sense, it does not hurt to look over it anyhow. We appreciate your corporation. Thank you!

Every member is expected to abide by all rules and polices presented by The Japanese Page. Bad or questionable behavior will not be tolerated whatsoever under any circumstances. Failure to comply will lead to an immediate ban without prior warning. Returning repeat offenders IP address will be blocked from viewing our website. Behave like a mature adult or go somewhere else. We want this website to be enjoyable for everyone alike. You get more bees with honey than with vinegar and the same can be said about people too.

  • Abide by all TJP’s rules and polices!

You are required to do this, therefore it is not optional. This is to keep the website clean from unwanted content for all our viewers both young and old.
  • Read "FAQs" plus “Read before posting” threads!

You are obligated to read all “FAQs” along with "Read before Posting" threads before posting any information in our forums. If there are resources already there, use them first before taking that additional step. It can be both a waste of your time as well as ours. Our members frown at people who ask answered questions.
  • Follow the rules of safety!

Asking for someone's personal information such as an e-mail address on a public forum is a bad thing. Posting non-member’s (including celebrities) data with or without their permission is forbidden. An adult asking someone who is legally under the age of eighteen for any personal information is entirely prohibited. If you are unfamiliar with basic internet safety, then please neither post nor request anything outside The Japanese Page website. We here feel that personal safety should always be taken very seriously.
  • Do not use profane language!

Profane language is an unnecessary element for effective communication and therefore we do not allow it in our forums. Cursing can also start heated discussions.
  • No discrimination!

Everyone should know that discriminating is wrong. Nothing racist, sexist or even ageist should ever enter a constructive conversation. Never post something that you think might be interpreted as a discriminative statement.
  • No trolling!

Trolling is deliberately stirring up controversy. There are different types of trolls, but all like to stir up trouble.
  • Neither flame nor flame-bait!

Never insult a poster. Flaming is dedicating an entire post, or series of posts, toward insulting another person.
  • Avoid feeding trolls!

Now that you know what a troll is, you know how to fight them. Ignore them and don't respond since a troll feeds on attention. They will stop if you ignore them. Our moderators are responsible for disciplining here.
  • Nothing religious or politic is allowed!

The Japanese Page has a large audience with varying religious backgrounds, ideas and opinions. It is not beneficial toward learning the Japanese language. These topics are also known to start flamed discussions. It is best to avoid religion and politics here on our website.
  • Never insult moderators!

This is relatively common sense for everyone, but it unfortunately occurs much too often. Firstly a moderator is someone who has special administrative privileges to help maintain the website and keep everyone in harmony. Every person you talk to on this website should be treated respectfully as you would treat a relative or nobleman; everyone.
  • DO NOT SPAM!

Create one post per topic or statement and do not multi post. Always give at least twenty-four hours before complaining no one has answered your post. Answer multiple responses to your question in one post instead of separately. Creating posts for the sole purpose of increasing post count is seen as spam.
  • Respect copyrights!

At all times please respect copyrights by not posting song lyrics or anything else that falls beyond the bounds of fair use. Don't recommend websites known for pirating, torrents and/or have a conversation recommending illegal activities of any form or likeness. If you're not sure it is legal, do not post it.
  • Research before questioning!

Research a topic thoroughly. Use The Japanese Page’s forum search function before posting. Laziness is frowned upon. Write a thread as a question if you are not entirely knowledgeable on the topic at hand to avoid negative criticism. We are not servants, yet we are more than happy to help if it is truly needed.
  • Show your effort!

Do not be afraid to show us all that research you have done after all that hard effort! (^_^) You will make friends that can help you later on doing that.
  • No double posting!

Thoroughly search your topic in forum search prior to creating a thread. Do not create a new one if there was a post that already answered your question. Double posts will be locked or deleted.
  • Never necropost without cause!

Reviving an old buried thread is necroposting. Checking the posted date is the easiest way to avoid doing that. It should stay buried when the thread was controversial or heated. If the thread was pertinent, then it might be ok to necropost.
  • Do not hijack threads!

Making a post that does not relate to the previous post in a thread is considered hijacking. Another form of hijacking is transforming someone else's thread into your own by asking a new question. The standard rule for posting is one thread per new unanswered question. It is best to start a new thread for a new question. Hijacking a tread is a form of contempt. If regular members start hijacking a thread, then it is usually a sign the rules of etiquette have been broken.
  • Use good grammar and spelling!

Using formal grammar and spelling is an internet standard. There is no exception on The Japanese Page. Please refrain from policing since not everyone here speaks English as a first language or is an adult. Write to the best of your ability.
  • Write formal, be brief!

The more concise your thread is, the more people will want to read it and potentially reply. Long paragraphs with unneeded details or words are annoying too. Nobody cares about your trip to Ireland or whatever when you are asking us about Japanese grammar?
  • Use white spaces!

Avoid creating large blocks of text. Many people will simply avoid reading it. Leave a space between the lines so it is easier on our eyes.
  • Shorten URL addresses!

Long URLs are unsightly. Use tinyurl bit.ly etc... to shorten your URL or use bbcode [url=website]name/title[/url].
  • Say Thank You!

Taking the time to tell someone thank you goes a long way. We are here to help each other out and it truly means a lot.

 

 

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