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Blutorange: /* Become ?????/????? */

2010-05-14T17:48:02Z

Become ?????/?????

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	yoru ni narimashita.<br>		yoru ni narimashita.<br>
	夜【よる】：night,<br>		夜【よる】：night,<br>
-	~~なる【なる】：to~~ become<br>	+	成る【なる】：to become<br>
	It has become night.<br>		It has become night.<br>
	[~mashita shows past]		[~mashita shows past]

-	~~友達になりましょう。~~<br>	+	友達に成りましょう。<br>
	ともだちになりましょう。<br>		ともだちになりましょう。<br>
	tomodachi ni narimashou.<br>		tomodachi ni narimashou.<br>
	友達【ともだち】：friend,<br>		友達【ともだち】：friend,<br>
-	~~なる【なる】~~: to become<br>	+	成る【なる】: to become<br>
	Let's become friends.<br>		Let's become friends.<br>
	[the ~ましょう[~mashou] means "let's"]		[the ~ましょう[~mashou] means "let's"]

-	~~元気になりました。~~<br>	+	元気に成りました。<br>
	げんきになりました。<br>		げんきになりました。<br>
	genki ni narimashita.<br>		genki ni narimashita.<br>
	元気【げんき】：/healthy/O.K./fine<br>		元気【げんき】：/healthy/O.K./fine<br>
-	~~なる【なる】：to~~ become<br>	+	成る【なる】：to become<br>
	"(I) have become fine / healthy."		"(I) have become fine / healthy."

-	~~日本人になりましょうから。~~	+	日本人に成りましょうから。<br>
-	~~おたくになりました。~~	+	日本人【にほんじん】Japanese (people)<br>
		+	から　starting point / because <br>
		+	Because he aquired the Japanese citizenship. <br>
		+
		+	オタクに成りました。<br>
		+	オタク　nerd<br>
		+	He became a nerd.<br>

	==To do, play する・します==		==To do, play する・します==

Blutorange: /* Become ????? */

2010-05-14T17:42:03Z

Become ?????

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	verb 行(い)く　replace by 行(い)って		verb 行(い)く　replace by 行(い)って

-	==Become になります==	+	==Become になります/に成ります==

	To show the state of becoming... something, use ～に　なります ni narimasu The ni is placed after what is becoming something. The narimasu means to become. Nouns and -na adjectives use ni narimasu. -i adjectives are different, but for now there are enough useful nouns to look at:		To show the state of becoming... something, use ～に　なります ni narimasu The ni is placed after what is becoming something. The narimasu means to become. Nouns and -na adjectives use ni narimasu. -i adjectives are different, but for now there are enough useful nouns to look at:

Blutorange: /* Making the ? form */

2010-05-14T17:40:50Z

Making the ? form

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	# する suru (to do) > して shite (do)		# する suru (to do) > して shite (do)

-	These are the ways to make the te form for each of the 3 types of verbs. If you are new to the "types of verbs" thing, don't worry. ~~Now I know there~~ are many grammarians out there that would argue against what I am about to say, but here's my advice. Don't worry about learning all the confusing rules about how to make this verb do that. Just say it as you feel it should be. Of course you will make many mistakes, but if you keep your ears open and learn from your mistakes you will get a feel for how the verbs work. Take the te form for an example. If you memorize the 3 examples at the top you should be able to guess what other verbs may change to. Or even if you guess wrong, the correct form should be at least familiar to you.	+	These are the ways to make the te form for each of the 3 types of verbs. If you are new to the "types of verbs" thing, don't worry.
		+	Different people have different ways of learning that are best for them. Pick the one you feel is best for you. What follows are some different opinions on the utility of grammar for learning.
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		+	There are many grammarians out there that would argue against what I am about to say, but here's my advice. Don't worry about learning all the confusing rules about how to make this verb do that. Just say it as you feel it should be. Of course you will make many mistakes, but if you keep your ears open and learn from your mistakes you will get a feel for how the verbs work. Take the te form for an example. If you memorize the 3 examples at the top you should be able to guess what other verbs may change to. Or even if you guess wrong, the correct form should be at least familiar to you.
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		+	There are many grammar rules and abstractions that hinder learning. But I think that some understanding of why people say things like this or like that actually turns random sounds and forms into something meaningful and logical. If I kind of understand how the language is orderly and not random sounds stacked together, I can memorize and recall it better. Following this logic, the advice should be: Only learn grammar that you find helpful.
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		+	Lastly, an empirical overview of the te form and co-occuring sound changes:
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		+	verbs ending in む/ぬ/ぶ　replace by んで
		+	verbs ending in く/ぐ replace by　いて　いで
		+	verbs ending in す replace　して
		+	verbs ending in う/つ　replace by って
		+	godan (五段)　verbs ending in る　replace by って
		+	ichidan (一段)　verbs ending in る　replace by て
		+	verb する　replace by して
		+	verb 来(く)る　replace by 来(き)て
		+	verb 行(い)く　replace by 行(い)って

	==Become になります==		==Become になります==

John2: /* That over there ??�?? */

2008-07-11T18:18:39Z

That over there ??�??

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	What is that over there?		What is that over there?

-	~~あれはねこです。<br>~~
	あれは猫です。<br>		あれは猫です。<br>
		+	あれはねこです。<br>
	are wa neko desu.<br>		are wa neko desu.<br>
	That over there is a cat.		That over there is a cat.

John2: /* That over there ??�?? */

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That over there ??�??

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	あれは何ですか？<br>		あれは何ですか？<br>
		+	あれはなんですか？<br>
	are wa nan desu ka?<br>		are wa nan desu ka?<br>
	What is that over there?		What is that over there?

	あれはねこです。<br>		あれはねこです。<br>
		+	あれは猫です。<br>
	are wa neko desu.<br>		are wa neko desu.<br>
	That over there is a cat.		That over there is a cat.

John2: /* Another usage of ?? -or- ??? is "to play" as in sports or games */

2008-07-11T16:54:06Z

Another usage of ?? -or- ??? is "to play" as in sports or games

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	===Another usage of する -or- します is "to play" as in sports or games===		===Another usage of する -or- します is "to play" as in sports or games===

-	野球をする。 ~~やきゅうをする。yakyuu~~ o suru. To play baseball.<br>	+	野球をする。<br>
-	相撲をする。 ~~すもうをする。sumou~~ o suru. To play (do) Sumo. <br>	+	やきゅうをする。<br>
-	バスケットバールをする。 ~~バスケットバールをする。　basuketto~~ ba-ru o suru. To play basketball. <br>	+	yakyuu o suru.<br>
-	将棋をする。 ~~しょうぎをそる。　shougi~~ o suru. To play shogi (Japanese chess)	+	To play baseball.<br>
		+	相撲をする。<br>
		+	すもうをする。<br>
		+	sumou o suru. To play (do) Sumo. <br>
		+	バスケットバールをする。<br>
		+	basuketto ba-ru o suru.<br>
		+	To play basketball. <br>
		+	将棋をする。<br>
		+	しょうぎをそる。<br>
		+	shougi o suru.<br>
		+	To play shogi (Japanese chess)

	==more, ~er もっと==		==more, ~er もっと==

John2: /* Another usage of ?? -or- ??? is "to play" as in sports or games */

2008-07-11T16:52:37Z

Another usage of ?? -or- ??? is "to play" as in sports or games

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	===Another usage of する -or- します is "to play" as in sports or games===		===Another usage of する -or- します is "to play" as in sports or games===

-	~~野球をする yakyuu~~ o suru. To play baseball.<br>	+	野球をする。やきゅうをする。yakyuu o suru. To play baseball.<br>
-	相撲をする。 ~~sumou~~ o suru. To play (do) Sumo. <br>	+	相撲をする。すもうをする。sumou o suru. To play (do) Sumo. <br>
-	バスケットバールをする。 ~~basuketto~~ ba-ru o suru. To play basketball. <br>	+	バスケットバールをする。バスケットバールをする。　basuketto ba-ru o suru. To play basketball. <br>
-	将棋をする。 ~~shougi~~ o suru. To play shogi (Japanese chess)	+	将棋をする。しょうぎをそる。　shougi o suru. To play shogi (Japanese chess)

	==more, ~er もっと==		==more, ~er もっと==

John2: /* Become ????? */

2008-07-11T16:50:56Z

Become ?????

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	元気【げんき】：/healthy/O.K./fine<br>		元気【げんき】：/healthy/O.K./fine<br>
	なる【なる】：to become<br>		なる【なる】：to become<br>
-	(I) have become fine / healthy.	+	"(I) have become fine / healthy."
		+
		+	日本人になりましょうから。
		+	おたくになりました。

	==To do, play する・します==		==To do, play する・します==

John2: /* Become ????? */

2008-07-11T11:45:27Z

Become ?????

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	なる【なる】: to become<br>		なる【なる】: to become<br>
	Let's become friends.<br>		Let's become friends.<br>
-	[the ~mashou means "let's"]	+	[the ~ましょう[~mashou] means "let's"]

	元気になりました。<br>		元気になりました。<br>

John2: /* To do, play ??�??? */

2008-07-11T10:46:34Z

To do, play ??�???

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	勉強する benkyou suru - to study<br>		勉強する benkyou suru - to study<br>
	毎日、日本語を勉強します。<br>		毎日、日本語を勉強します。<br>
		+	まいにち、にほんごべんきょうします。<br>
	mainichi, nihongo o benkyou shimasu.<br>		mainichi, nihongo o benkyou shimasu.<br>
	Everyday, (I) am studying Japanese.		Everyday, (I) am studying Japanese.