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Johtoken: /* Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese */

2009-07-15T17:23:00Z

Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese

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	===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on ~~the~~ context ~~of the situation~~. Due to the immense cultural differences between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, treat the Japanese translated material as if it were of Japanese origin, and apply [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]].	+	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on situational context. Due to the immense cultural differences between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, treat the Japanese translated material as if it were of Japanese origin, and apply [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]].

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==

Johtoken: /* Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese */ Fixed information. Some parts may still need to be fixed.

2009-07-15T07:09:24Z

Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese: Fixed information. Some parts may still need to be fixed.

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	===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. Due to the immense cultural differences between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, the [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]] ~~apply~~.	+	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. Due to the immense cultural differences between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, treat the Japanese translated material as if it were of Japanese origin, and apply [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]].

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==

Johtoken: /* Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese */

2009-07-15T07:07:52Z

Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese

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	===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. Due to the immense cultural ~~difference~~ between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, the [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]] apply.	+	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. Due to the immense cultural differences between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, the [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]] apply.

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==

Johtoken: /* Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese */

2009-07-15T07:07:33Z

Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese

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	===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. In this case, the [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]] apply.	+	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. Due to the immense cultural difference between Japan and most of the world, this would make it extremely difficult, if not impossible, to put out a translation that is as literal as possible without being unnatural. In that case, the [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]] apply.

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==

Johtoken: /* Non Japanese media translated to Japanese */ Added basic information. Feel free to build on this.

2009-07-15T07:05:11Z

Non Japanese media translated to Japanese: Added basic information. Feel free to build on this.

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	Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.		Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.

-	===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===	+	===Non-Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	[~~The original author~~ is not ~~knowledgable enough to credibly write this section. But perhaps ''you'' can~~.]	+	Like what you may find in [http://www.alc.co.jp/ ALC] (which is powered by Eijiro (英辞朗)), non-Japanese media may contain material that is not literally translated, but is actually translated based on the context of the situation. In this case, the [[Watching anime \| strategies for watching anime]] apply.

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==

Phreadom: Fixed forum links (They were using an old format which no longer works).

2008-10-21T09:20:51Z

Fixed forum links (They were using an old format which no longer works).

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	* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".
	* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]		* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]
-	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/~~viewthread~~.php?~~forum_id~~=6&~~thread_id~~=8298 See this.]	+	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=8298 See this.]
	* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.		* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.
	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]		* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]

Phreadom: removing vandalism. I don't know how to simply revert to a previous version. :P heh

2008-09-04T06:41:25Z

removing vandalism. I don't know how to simply revert to a previous version. :P heh

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	==Pitfalls==		==Pitfalls==
-	===Crudeness===~~dfadfadfadfasdfasdfasdfadsfas~~	+	===Crudeness===
	The language found in Japanese media can differ greatly from what one would encounter in real life Japan, particularly in its excessive crudeness. Individuals may exchange words and expressions frequently that seem innocuous and elicit innocuous responses, but are fighting words to a Japanese person.		The language found in Japanese media can differ greatly from what one would encounter in real life Japan, particularly in its excessive crudeness. Individuals may exchange words and expressions frequently that seem innocuous and elicit innocuous responses, but are fighting words to a Japanese person.

	The following are some words that are best avoided entirely until you are proficient and well in-tune to the subtle situations where they may be appropriate.		The following are some words that are best avoided entirely until you are proficient and well in-tune to the subtle situations where they may be appropriate.
	* おのれ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* おのれ -- Highly aggressive "you".
-	* てめえ -- Highly ~~aggressidffdave~~ "you".	+	* てめえ -- Highly aggressive "you".
	* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".
	* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]		* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]
-	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.~~coadfam~~/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=8298 See this.]	+	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=8298 See this.]
	* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.		* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.
-	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]~~afadf~~	+	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]
	* やがる -- Expresses disdain for the clause preceding it. See [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html#part8 Tae Kim on the word].		* やがる -- Expresses disdain for the clause preceding it. See [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html#part8 Tae Kim on the word].

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	===Outdated language===		===Outdated language===
	Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.		Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.
-	~~adf~~	+
	===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	[The original author is not ~~knoafadfwledgable~~ enough to credibly write this section. But perhaps ''you'' can.]	+	[The original author is not knowledgable enough to credibly write this section. But perhaps ''you'' can.]

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==
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	==Additional reading==		==Additional reading==
	* [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html Tae Kim on slang]		* [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html Tae Kim on slang]
-	~~afdafda~~

Soso at 07:40, 12 March 2008

2008-03-12T07:40:01Z

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	==Pitfalls==		==Pitfalls==
-	===Crudeness===	+	===Crudeness===dfadfadfadfasdfasdfasdfadsfas
	The language found in Japanese media can differ greatly from what one would encounter in real life Japan, particularly in its excessive crudeness. Individuals may exchange words and expressions frequently that seem innocuous and elicit innocuous responses, but are fighting words to a Japanese person.		The language found in Japanese media can differ greatly from what one would encounter in real life Japan, particularly in its excessive crudeness. Individuals may exchange words and expressions frequently that seem innocuous and elicit innocuous responses, but are fighting words to a Japanese person.

	The following are some words that are best avoided entirely until you are proficient and well in-tune to the subtle situations where they may be appropriate.		The following are some words that are best avoided entirely until you are proficient and well in-tune to the subtle situations where they may be appropriate.
	* おのれ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* おのれ -- Highly aggressive "you".
-	* てめえ -- Highly ~~aggressive~~ "you".	+	* てめえ -- Highly aggressidffdave "you".
	* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".
	* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]		* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]
-	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.~~com~~/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=8298 See this.]	+	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.coadfam/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=8298 See this.]
	* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.		* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.
-	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]	+	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]afadf
	* やがる -- Expresses disdain for the clause preceding it. See [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html#part8 Tae Kim on the word].		* やがる -- Expresses disdain for the clause preceding it. See [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html#part8 Tae Kim on the word].

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	===Outdated language===		===Outdated language===
	Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.		Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.
-		+	adf
	===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===
-	[The original author is not ~~knowledgable~~ enough to credibly write this section. But perhaps ''you'' can.]	+	[The original author is not knoafadfwledgable enough to credibly write this section. But perhaps ''you'' can.]

	==Particular media==		==Particular media==
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	==Additional reading==		==Additional reading==
	* [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html Tae Kim on slang]		* [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html Tae Kim on slang]
		+	afdafda

Coco: /* Crudeness */

2008-03-08T06:43:22Z

Crudeness

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	* てめえ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* てめえ -- Highly aggressive "you".
	* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".		* おまえ -- Highly aggressive "you".
-	* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/~~viewthread~~.php?~~forum_id~~=7&~~thread_id~~=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]	+	* きさま -- Highly aggressive "you".　[http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=8242 You can see what will happen by using おまえ and きさま at a public place.]
	* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=8298 See this.]		* 俺【おれ】-- Boastful word for "I". Used historically by the samurai to impress upon others their own greatness. It is used infrequently in modern day Japan and is almost always rude. [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewthread.php?forum_id=6&thread_id=8298 See this.]
	* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.		* [one's own name]さま -- Using the honorific さま after one's own name isn't a part of real Japanese, but may occur in some forms of media.
-	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/~~viewthread~~.php?~~forum_id~~=8&~~thread_id~~=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]	+	* しとけ (しておけ) -- [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=8333 See a relevant forum thread.]
	* やがる -- Expresses disdain for the clause preceding it. See [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html#part8 Tae Kim on the word].		* やがる -- Expresses disdain for the clause preceding it. See [http://www.guidetojapanese.org/casual.html#part8 Tae Kim on the word].

Furrykef: /* Outdated language */

2008-01-11T02:03:34Z

Outdated language

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	===Outdated language===		===Outdated language===
-	Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case ~~bare~~ in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.	+	Sometimes a particular media takes place in historical times such as feudal Japan, or the 1980s. In either case, bear in mind that antiquated language may be in use, and that current events and pop culture likely influenced its creation.

	===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===		===Non Japanese media translated to Japanese===