Coco-san, you are fast ! J^.^Lvv
I think TJP or Wagawiki should announce that Chat log will be opened. I wonder if participations are happy to release chat logs or not. Actually some of them chatted about his/her personal information. They didn't suppose that logs will be put on the website. --Coco 10:35, 17 November 2006 (EST)
A very good morning to you Coco-san ! I’m not sure which logs you are referring to, but I think it’s not necessary to keep logs of JLPT4 study group after we have completed all the sessions. We may probably need Captain Zen to do some magic on that. (Edit: Appreciated Zen-san's help on keeping the logs for those that need them) ---- Shirley Sia 09:33, 18 November 2006 (SST)
こんにちはSSさん。Thank you for your reply. Ｉ think JLPT4 logs are okay because we already knew the chat logs are opened on the web. and topics of the room are limited. I was talking about the logs of"Japanese class room" or others.
The reason that I didn't contribute this on the TJP forum thread is the matter of participants' privacy.--Coco 01:50, 18 November 2006 (EST)
Ah, I had no idea that logs of all rooms were saved (I'd just seen the logs of the JLPT4 study group). I agree that some people wouldn't be happy to know what they write can be seen by everyone. What can be done? --tanuki
Konnnichiha minasan I know that im not a frequent guest on chatt lately but im 100% with coco chan and Tanuki san, we shouldnt keep our private talks logs at all, moderators please delete these logs, unfortunately I was one of the persons that did not know that logs are made and kept, and I was talking about stuff that wasnt connected with JLPT lvl4. In my humble opinion from now on only LVL4 room logs should be made and kept but topic in this room should always warn all users that LOG is beeing made, other room logs shouldnt be made at all. Im sorry for my poor english, fell free to correct my post(correct not change ;-) )
こんにちはCocoさん。I see. lol.. I didn't even notice there were logs for J-class and others !! We asked for the logs because we really found some of the explanation good and clear (and for revision obviously). Other than that, I don’t see any reason we should read log of others’ conversation! ^_^" --- SS 15:05, 19 Novemeber 2006
maybe this is a U.S. thing, but as far as i am concerned, public chatrooms have no expectation of privacy. it is routine to log all public group chat rooms, and to possibly make those records public. on the TJP chatrooms, it is up to the room Owner/Creator to decide whether or not the room will be logged. since i created the 'lounge' and 'chat_in_japanese' rooms, i made them logged. these public rooms that are sorta directly approved by TJP should be logged at the server side to prevent abuse. without logging it would be a 'he said' vs 'she said' argument should some sort of abuse occur. these group chat rooms are no different than the forums. they are public.
however, rest assured... private 'person to person' chat (aka IM) are not logged in any way. private 'person to person' is private (but many chat clients allow logging of conversation on client side.).
so... public TJP rooms (lounge, chat_in_japanese) are logged and not private. for other rooms it is up to the room creator to decide whether or not to log. if you want a private group chat, create a room and do not enable logging (logging is disabled by default).
there is no easy way to make logs only available to users of a certain chat room. they are either open to everybody, or they are not. there is no inbetween.
if you want a warning to all users that group chat rooms may be logged, give me a translation into Japanese of the warning message and i'll make it the 'new user' message that everybody recieves the first time they join chat. :)
Some Random Note
日曜日なら、朝８時(イギリス時間)からいつでも大丈夫です。--Chchan45 17:36, 17 August 2006 (EDT)
To the members of 4級団
When you upload chat log, should pay attention about copyright infringement. ( Please check about copyright of scanned papers/books.) Thanks.
It looks like they scanned the actual test papers. That may not be copyrighted? If they scanned Bonjinsha's test book, it would be a copyright infringement, but it doesn't look like they did that.
了解, thanks for reminding us Coco-san ^^ Shirley 21:00, 5 November 2006
Color Text HowTo
- Coco-san, see, Zengargoyle is our 寶貝!
i think you can use this too if it's more familiar.
aqua, black, blue, fuchsia, gray, green, lime, maroon, navy, olive, purple, red, silver, teal, white, and yellow
- white (white)
--Zengargoyle 19:27, 1 September 2006 (EDT)