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*この形だと、追加での書き込みが難しくありませんか? --[[User:Coco|Coco ]] 22:24, 15 July 2006 (EDT)
*この形だと、追加での書き込みが難しくありませんか? --[[User:Coco|Coco ]] 22:24, 15 July 2006 (EDT)
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** 確かにテーブルは厄介です。[http://jspwiki.org/wiki/WikiWizard WikiWizard]のようはツールを使った方がいいかもしれません。
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*** i doubt WikiWizard will do much good.  it looks like that software uses a different format for tables.  if you're so inclined, at the bottom of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table are links to some conversion pages where you can turn HTML (maybe from Word, etc.) into Wikipedia table format.  or CSV, or there's even a macro for EXCEL...  WYSIWYG editing may come in the future, there are a few testing examples in place, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor and  http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM_editor so maybe someday it will be easily available once they get the kinks worked out.
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**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b|Paul b]]
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*日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--[[User:Coco|Coco ]] 04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)
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Paul_bさん。スレッドにあった「を」の例文が非常に優れているのでwikiにあげておきました。気が向いたら英文をつけてくださると助かります。--[[User:Coco|Coco ]] 05:32, 14 December 2006 (EST)
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== Difference between wa and ga ==
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Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?
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: [[Grammar page 2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C|They already have]]
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: [[User:Paul b|Paul b]]
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おっしゃるとおり、「は」と「が」を主題/主語だけで分けると「?」の部分が出てきます。同じじゃないかというご意見はごもっともです。
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== Conjunction と==
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Conjunction と is used when the act/phenomenon written in sentence 1 and the act/phenomenon expressed in sentence 2 is consecutive. <br>
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e.g.<br>
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そとに出ると、急に雨がふり出しました。<br>
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As I went out, it suddenly started to rain.(?)<br>
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道を歩いていると、昔の友人に会った。 <br>
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I walkd down the street, and then I met an old friend.(?)/As I walked down the street, I met an old friend.(?)<br>
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窓を開けると、富士山が見えた。<br>
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As I opened the window, I could see Mt.Fuji. <br>
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国境の長いトンネルを抜けると雪国であった。<br>
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The train came out of the long border tunnel — and there was the snow country. <br>
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( This is the beginning sentence from "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Country 雪国]", translated by Edward Seidensticker)<br>

Current revision as of 18:57, 8 July 2007

  • この形だと、追加での書き込みが難しくありませんか? --Coco  22:24, 15 July 2006 (EDT)
    • 確かにテーブルは厄介です。WikiWizardのようはツールを使った方がいいかもしれません。
      • i doubt WikiWizard will do much good. it looks like that software uses a different format for tables. if you're so inclined, at the bottom of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table are links to some conversion pages where you can turn HTML (maybe from Word, etc.) into Wikipedia table format. or CSV, or there's even a macro for EXCEL... WYSIWYG editing may come in the future, there are a few testing examples in place, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM_editor so maybe someday it will be easily available once they get the kinks worked out.
        • Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) Paul b
  • 日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--Coco  04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

Paul_bさん。スレッドにあった「を」の例文が非常に優れているのでwikiにあげておきました。気が向いたら英文をつけてくださると助かります。--Coco  05:32, 14 December 2006 (EST)

Difference between wa and ga

Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?

They already have
Paul b

おっしゃるとおり、「は」と「が」を主題/主語だけで分けると「?」の部分が出てきます。同じじゃないかというご意見はごもっともです。

Conjunction と

Conjunction と is used when the act/phenomenon written in sentence 1 and the act/phenomenon expressed in sentence 2 is consecutive.

e.g.
そとに出ると、急に雨がふり出しました。
As I went out, it suddenly started to rain.(?)

道を歩いていると、昔の友人に会った。
I walkd down the street, and then I met an old friend.(?)/As I walked down the street, I met an old friend.(?)

窓を開けると、富士山が見えた。
As I opened the window, I could see Mt.Fuji.

国境の長いトンネルを抜けると雪国であった。
The train came out of the long border tunnel — and there was the snow country.
( This is the beginning sentence from "雪国", translated by Edward Seidensticker)

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