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Coco: /* Conjunction ? */

Coco — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:57:37 GMT

Conjunction ?

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	国境の長いトンネルを抜けると雪国であった。<br>		国境の長いトンネルを抜けると雪国であった。<br>
	The train came out of the long border tunnel — and there was the snow country. <br>		The train came out of the long border tunnel — and there was the snow country. <br>
-	( ~~The sentence~~ is the beginning of "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Country 雪国]", translated by Edward Seidensticker)<br>	+	( This is the beginning sentence from "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Country 雪国]", translated by Edward Seidensticker)<br>

Coco: /* Conjunction ? */

Coco — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:55:00 GMT

Conjunction ?

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	== Conjunction と==		== Conjunction と==

-	Conjunction と is used when the act/phenomenon written in sentence 1 and the act/phenomenon expressed in sentence　2 is consecutive.	+	Conjunction と is used when the act/phenomenon written in sentence 1 and the act/phenomenon expressed in sentence　2 is consecutive. <br>

-	e.g.	+	e.g.<br>
	そとに出ると、急に雨がふり出しました。<br>		そとに出ると、急に雨がふり出しました。<br>
	As I went out, it suddenly started to rain.(?)<br>		As I went out, it suddenly started to rain.(?)<br>

	道を歩いていると、昔の友人に会った。 <br>		道を歩いていると、昔の友人に会った。 <br>
-	I walkd down the street, and then I met an old friend.(?)/As I walked down the street, I met an old friend./<br>	+	I walkd down the street, and then I met an old friend.(?)/As I walked down the street, I met an old friend.(?)<br>
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		+	窓を開けると、富士山が見えた。<br>
		+	As I opened the window, I could see Mt.Fuji. <br>
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		+	国境の長いトンネルを抜けると雪国であった。<br>
		+	The train came out of the long border tunnel — and there was the snow country. <br>
		+	( The sentence is the beginning of "[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snow_Country 雪国]", translated by Edward Seidensticker)<br>

Coco at 18:12, 8 July 2007

Coco — Sun, 08 Jul 2007 18:12:53 GMT

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	おっしゃるとおり、「は」と「が」を主題/主語だけで分けると「?」の部分が出てきます。同じじゃないかというご意見はごもっともです。		おっしゃるとおり、「は」と「が」を主題/主語だけで分けると「?」の部分が出てきます。同じじゃないかというご意見はごもっともです。
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		+	== Conjunction と==
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		+	Conjunction と is used when the act/phenomenon written in sentence 1 and the act/phenomenon expressed in sentence　2 is consecutive.
		+
		+	e.g.
		+	そとに出ると、急に雨がふり出しました。<br>
		+	As I went out, it suddenly started to rain.(?)<br>
		+
		+	道を歩いていると、昔の友人に会った。 <br>
		+	I walkd down the street, and then I met an old friend.(?)/As I walked down the street, I met an old friend./<br>

Coco at 10:32, 14 December 2006

Coco — Thu, 14 Dec 2006 10:32:00 GMT

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	**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]		**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]
	*日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--[[User:Coco\|Coco　]] 04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)		*日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--[[User:Coco\|Coco　]] 04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)
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		+	Paul_bさん。スレッドにあった「を」の例文が非常に優れているのでwikiにあげておきました。気が向いたら英文をつけてくださると助かります。--[[User:Coco\|Coco　]] 05:32, 14 December 2006 (EST)

	== Difference between wa and ga ==		== Difference between wa and ga ==
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	: [[Grammar page 2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C\|They already have]]		: [[Grammar page 2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C\|They already have]]
	: [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]		: [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]
		+	おっしゃるとおり、「は」と「が」を主題/主語だけで分けると「?」の部分が出てきます。同じじゃないかというご意見はごもっともです。

Paul b: /* Difference between wa and ga */

Paul b — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:55:25 GMT

Difference between wa and ga

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	Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?		Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?
-	: [[Grammar page 2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C\|They already have]][[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]	+	: [[Grammar page 2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C\|They already have]]
		+	: [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]

Paul b: /* Difference between wa and ga */

Paul b — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:55:07 GMT

Difference between wa and ga

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	Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?		Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?
-	: [~~http://www.thejapanesepage.com/w/index.php?title=Grammar_page_2~~#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C They already have][[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]	+	: [[Grammar page 2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C\|They already have]][[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]

Paul b: /* Difference between wa and ga */

Paul b — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:54:31 GMT

Difference between wa and ga

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	Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?		Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?
		+	: [http://www.thejapanesepage.com/w/index.php?title=Grammar_page_2#Comparing_.E3.81.AF_and_.E3.81.8C They already have][[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]

Neeson: Difference between wa and ga

Neeson — Fri, 18 Aug 2006 07:35:30 GMT

Difference between wa and ga

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	**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]		**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]
	*日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--[[User:Coco\|Coco　]] 04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)		*日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--[[User:Coco\|Coco　]] 04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)
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		+	== Difference between wa and ga ==
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		+	Wa is a topic marker, and Ga is a subject marker... in my head topic and subject are basically the same. Can somebody elaborate and describe the difference?

Coco at 08:21, 28 July 2006

Coco — Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:21:15 GMT

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	*** i doubt WikiWizard will do much good. it looks like that software uses a different format for tables. if you're so inclined, at the bottom of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table are links to some conversion pages where you can turn HTML (maybe from Word, etc.) into Wikipedia table format. or CSV, or there's even a macro for EXCEL... WYSIWYG editing may come in the future, there are a few testing examples in place, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM_editor so maybe someday it will be easily available once they get the kinks worked out.		*** i doubt WikiWizard will do much good. it looks like that software uses a different format for tables. if you're so inclined, at the bottom of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table are links to some conversion pages where you can turn HTML (maybe from Word, etc.) into Wikipedia table format. or CSV, or there's even a macro for EXCEL... WYSIWYG editing may come in the future, there are a few testing examples in place, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM_editor so maybe someday it will be easily available once they get the kinks worked out.
	**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]		**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]
		+	*日本語で読んでもわからなさそうな内容。Orz--[[User:Coco\|Coco　]] 04:21, 28 July 2006 (EDT)

Paul b at 17:04, 16 July 2006

Paul b — Sun, 16 Jul 2006 17:04:53 GMT

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	** 確かにテーブルは厄介です。[http://jspwiki.org/wiki/WikiWizard WikiWizard]のようはツールを使った方がいいかもしれません。		** 確かにテーブルは厄介です。[http://jspwiki.org/wiki/WikiWizard WikiWizard]のようはツールを使った方がいいかもしれません。
	*** i doubt WikiWizard will do much good. it looks like that software uses a different format for tables. if you're so inclined, at the bottom of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table are links to some conversion pages where you can turn HTML (maybe from Word, etc.) into Wikipedia table format. or CSV, or there's even a macro for EXCEL... WYSIWYG editing may come in the future, there are a few testing examples in place, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM_editor so maybe someday it will be easily available once they get the kinks worked out.		*** i doubt WikiWizard will do much good. it looks like that software uses a different format for tables. if you're so inclined, at the bottom of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table are links to some conversion pages where you can turn HTML (maybe from Word, etc.) into Wikipedia table format. or CSV, or there's even a macro for EXCEL... WYSIWYG editing may come in the future, there are a few testing examples in place, see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/FCKeditor and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WYSIWYM_editor so maybe someday it will be easily available once they get the kinks worked out.
		+	**** Whoever wrote "Easy to write Easy to read" in the pros for Wiki pipe table format must have been on drugs. I much prefer xhtml format (although I have to admit that being familiar with it is part of it). Incidentally のような is a very useful weasel phrase. ;-) [[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]