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Infidel: /* Wa/Ga */

2008-11-20T00:00:25Z

Wa/Ga

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	猫がすきな妹がいます。I have a sister who likes cats.		猫がすきな妹がいます。I have a sister who likes cats.
	猫はすきな妹がいます。(The) Cat has a sister it likes.		猫はすきな妹がいます。(The) Cat has a sister it likes.
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		+	From keatonatron
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		+	私もまだはっきりは決めていませんがもう少し英語を勉強するために、一、二年イギリスへ行くつもりです。
		+
		+	:This type of は is a very powerful tool. Used in this sentence, it basically means that his plans ''are'' somewhat 決まってます, but ''not'' はっきり. :D
		+
		+	:In other words, he has decided he wants to go to England, but he has not yet decided the details. Using は like this is kind of like saying "It's not X, but it's not so far to the opposite that I can describe it as such."
		+
		+	Example!
		+	この値段なら安いの？ - Is this a cheap price?
		+	これだったら、安くはないと思う。 - For this, it's not exactly cheap (but it's not expensive either).
		+
		+	:Simply saying 安くない would imply that the price was flat out expensive.

	===Na===		===Na===

Infidel: /* Memorization canditate sentences */

2007-10-01T06:18:05Z

Memorization canditate sentences

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	== Memorization canditate sentences ==		== Memorization canditate sentences ==

-	Nothing special here. Just sentences that encountered IRL and should have understood but couldn't, so I'm memorizing them to make the patterns more natural. Besides, sentences are strangely easier to memorize than words.	+	Nothing special here. Just sentences that encountered IRL and should have understood but couldn't, so I'm memorizing them to make the patterns more natural. Besides, sentences are strangely easier to memorize than individual words.

	By JT.		By JT.
	自己紹介はこれくらいしか思い浮かばないのですが、ほかに何か知りたいことがあったらご遠慮なく何でも聞いて下さい。("This is all I can think of for my self-introduction for now, but if you want to know anything else, feel free to ask me anything.")		自己紹介はこれくらいしか思い浮かばないのですが、ほかに何か知りたいことがあったらご遠慮なく何でも聞いて下さい。("This is all I can think of for my self-introduction for now, but if you want to know anything else, feel free to ask me anything.")

Infidel: Memorization canditate sentences

2007-10-01T06:16:46Z

Memorization canditate sentences

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	I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.		I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.
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		+	== Memorization canditate sentences ==
		+
		+	Nothing special here. Just sentences that encountered IRL and should have understood but couldn't, so I'm memorizing them to make the patterns more natural. Besides, sentences are strangely easier to memorize than words.
		+
		+	By JT.
		+	自己紹介はこれくらいしか思い浮かばないのですが、ほかに何か知りたいことがあったらご遠慮なく何でも聞いて下さい。("This is all I can think of for my self-introduction for now, but if you want to know anything else, feel free to ask me anything.")

Infidel: /* No */

2007-07-16T19:16:17Z

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	:For every one of those sentences, you can put a noun directly after it and it will turn the :sentence into a modifying clause -- with one exception. There is no *病気だ人. However, we do :have 病気の人. This is the justification for considering this の as "a form of だ".		:For every one of those sentences, you can put a noun directly after it and it will turn the :sentence into a modifying clause -- with one exception. There is no *病気だ人. However, we do :have 病気の人. This is the justification for considering this の as "a form of だ".
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		+	From Coco
		+	○はなこさん　の　プレゼント　は　なに　に　しますか。
		+	×はなこさん　に　プレゼント　は　なに　に　しますか。
		+	:As other members said, I don't think に works in this context.
		+	:When you use に before プレゼント, a verb is needed after プレゼント. Then add a noun.
		+	○はなこさん　に　プレゼントする　しなもの　は　なに　に　しますか。
		+	○はなこさん(へ)のプレゼントには、何を選べばいいでしょうか。
		+	○はなこさん(へ)のプレゼントには、先月発売されたゲームがいいと思いますよ。

	===You ni===		===You ni===

Infidel: /* Na */

2007-07-16T19:11:56Z

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	:"In contrast to his ""Not bad looks but seems a bit of a dandy"" appearance he didn't have a girlfriend and he wasn't particularly fast with the ladies."		:"In contrast to his ""Not bad looks but seems a bit of a dandy"" appearance he didn't have a girlfriend and he wasn't particularly fast with the ladies."
	[[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]		[[User:Paul b\|Paul b]]
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		+	====No====
		+	From Chris Kern
		+
		+	Look at it this way -- if you consider each type of predicate in 4 forms:
		+	Noun (or na-adjective):
		+	病気だ
		+	病気じゃない
		+	病気だった
		+	病気じゃなかった
		+	Adjective:
		+	安い
		+	安くない
		+	安かった
		+	安くなかった
		+	Verb:
		+	食べる
		+	食べない
		+	食べた
		+	食べなかった
		+
		+	:For every one of those sentences, you can put a noun directly after it and it will turn the :sentence into a modifying clause -- with one exception. There is no *病気だ人. However, we do :have 病気の人. This is the justification for considering this の as "a form of だ".

	===You ni===		===You ni===

Infidel at 12:14, 18 June 2007

2007-06-18T12:14:33Z

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	===～て、vs. る===		===～て、vs. る===
	Chris Kern kara		Chris Kern kara
-	One thing to keep in mind in Japanese is that stative and intransitive verbs often contain a potential meaning within them. That is, 癒える means "will heal" but also can have the connotation of "is able to heal" -- a form like *癒えられる does not normally occur. あの窓は開きますよ。 means "That window will/can open".	+	One thing to keep in mind in Japanese is that stative and intransitive verbs often contain a potential meaning within
		+	them. That is, 癒える means "will heal" but also can have the connotation of "is able to heal"
		+	-- a form like *癒えられる does not normally occur. あの窓は開きますよ。 means "That window will/can open".

	== Work in Progress ==		== Work in Progress ==

	I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.		I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.

Infidel: /* ~?? */

2007-06-18T12:13:36Z

~??

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-	===～て、vs. る	+	===～て、vs. る===
	Chris Kern kara		Chris Kern kara
	One thing to keep in mind in Japanese is that stative and intransitive verbs often contain a potential meaning within them. That is, 癒える means "will heal" but also can have the connotation of "is able to heal" -- a form like *癒えられる does not normally occur. あの窓は開きますよ。 means "That window will/can open".		One thing to keep in mind in Japanese is that stative and intransitive verbs often contain a potential meaning within them. That is, 癒える means "will heal" but also can have the connotation of "is able to heal" -- a form like *癒えられる does not normally occur. あの窓は開きますよ。 means "That window will/can open".

Infidel at 12:13, 18 June 2007

2007-06-18T12:13:06Z

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	:My own experience is that the conditional form is used alot more than the provisional form. And most times that I run across the provisional it's in idiomatic expressions like ～なければいけない　have to do something.		:My own experience is that the conditional form is used alot more than the provisional form. And most times that I run across the provisional it's in idiomatic expressions like ～なければいけない　have to do something.
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		+
		+	===～て、vs. る
		+	Chris Kern kara
		+	One thing to keep in mind in Japanese is that stative and intransitive verbs often contain a potential meaning within them. That is, 癒える means "will heal" but also can have the connotation of "is able to heal" -- a form like *癒えられる does not normally occur. あの窓は開きますよ。 means "That window will/can open".

	== Work in Progress ==		== Work in Progress ==

	I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.		I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.

Infidel: Work in Progress

2006-11-23T00:23:50Z

Work in Progress

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	:My own experience is that the conditional form is used alot more than the provisional form. And most times that I run across the provisional it's in idiomatic expressions like ～なければいけない　have to do something.		:My own experience is that the conditional form is used alot more than the provisional form. And most times that I run across the provisional it's in idiomatic expressions like ～なければいけない　have to do something.
		+
		+	== Work in Progress ==
		+
		+	I'm corrently working on a [[Template:Book Review]] page for eventual fully detailed book reviews. Let's see how I do.

Infidel: /* You ni */

2006-09-19T10:26:51Z

You ni

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	It can be a request:		It can be a request:
	「遅れないようにお願いします」		「遅れないようにお願いします」
-	"Please don't be late." meaning "Please make it so that you aren't late."	+	"Please don't be late." meaning "Please make it '''so that''' you aren't late."

	It can be a sort of a prayer (The "I hope" or "I wish" meaning):		It can be a sort of a prayer (The "I hope" or "I wish" meaning):
	「合格しますように」= 「神様、合格しますようにしてください。」		「合格しますように」= 「神様、合格しますようにしてください。」
-	"Dear God, please make it so that I pass." (Creative license invoked)	+	"Dear God, please make it '''so that''' I pass." (Creative license invoked)

	As Paul said, this is often used with the ます form, as in the above example, but not always.		As Paul said, this is often used with the ます form, as in the above example, but not always.
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	私のことを忘れないように（何かします）」		私のことを忘れないように（何かします）」
-	(Do something) so that you don't forget me.	+	(Do something) '''so that''' you don't forget me.

	===Desire===		===Desire===